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VersionTracker joins the CNET family

Submitted by Kurt on Wed, 2007-08-29 13:41.

A little over ten years ago, when I started VersionTracker, my intentions were both modest and personal. I wanted something to track software updates, to help me in my position as a systems administrator. Some friends of mine took interest in what I did, as did a few of the growing Mac sites on the Web. Before I knew it, VersionTracker.com became what I did every day.

Since those early days, VersionTracker has grown far beyond anything I could have imagined, and I’m very proud of what we have built. I still get up every day, ready to check and post updates, and read your email. My job is to make sure the VersionTracker is the best update site out there, and I love what I do.

Today marks an important milestone for us, as we become part of the CNET family of sites. I’m really excited about this. It gives VersionTracker—and our sister sites, iPhone Atlas and MacFixIt—more resources to grow and gives us higher visibility than I could have ever imagined for our humble site. It also gives CNET a stronger presence in the Mac market than ever before. I think that says a lot about what we’ve been able to create here at TechTracker.

You won’t see a lot of changes today, other then some new logos and copyright changes. VersionTracker will remain in Portland, with the same team that has been publishing updates and troubleshooting information for the past 10 years. We’re continuing to work on VersionTracker Pro, which we know is so important to so many of you (especially with Mac OS X Leopard on the way). And we will continue to update and improve the sites, as we have done over the past year. We have lots of ideas and things we’re working on, but we know that our mission—to provide you with the latest and most accurate update site on the Web—is what is most important, and that is what drives us all.

My passion and commitment to VersionTracker is stronger than ever. Tomorrow morning, just like today, I’ll be posting updates, reading your email, and helping guide our once little site in even better directions. As always, I thank you, our readers and developers, for your support; you have helped make VersionTracker a better site, and I’m looking forward to seeing what we can do together in the next 10 years.

Kurt Christensen
Founder, VersionTracker.com

rjv@mac.com Says:
Wed, 2007-08-29 17:24

CNET is a real step down for you guys. Hope you got paid big bucks. Guess this is what happens when the Mac becomes mainstream. Oh well...

rjdbfree Says:
Wed, 2007-08-29 18:31

Personally I'm a fan of CNET. I use them primarily to search for electronic products and to check out their reviews. I'm excited for you guys and hope this works out as you expect (or better).

iGreg Says:
Wed, 2007-08-29 19:15

Consolidation is not always for the best. It can have a diluting effect. Remember the old saying... "small fish in a big pond."

Not a big fan of CNET myself.

I really wish you guys at VersionTracker would spend more time making your pages load faster rather than corporate organization/re-organization etc.

mail.generic Says:
Wed, 2007-08-29 19:44

I think CNET could do wonders for helping Versiontracker optimize and improve. I'm pretty psyched.

animator Says:
Wed, 2007-08-29 20:27

Well, over the past few years you guys have gotten me hopelessly addicted to Versiontracker, so I'm hoping all changes are improvements. I have to thank you for a vast amount of great info that has helped me many times.

Good luck to you, and all that, but also, please stay the way you are -- that is, a GREAT resource!

santaclaus2 Says:
Wed, 2007-08-29 21:02

If you benifit from the affiliation, then grats. I'm not a fan of CNET, which I think of as a highly biased entity, but if you can avoid that issue I am hopeful that it can be a postiive thing.

MisterOSX Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 01:45

CNET is absolutely horrible, and the worst resource for anything Mac-related. It's like becoming affiliated with Microsoft... Ugh!

I just hope you guys know what you're getting yourselves into.

Swift2 Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 05:14

Now that you'll be getting big bucks from Microsoft-- er, CNET, will you drop the membership fees? Give us all access to the main data stream?

Robb1068 Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 06:59

cNET is finally taking a serious interest in Macintosh stuff? This Apple thing just might pan out after all.

bstone Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 07:31

CNET is bad news. I am really sorry to see this. I remember a few years ago macnn.com was bought by a company, but all the members rose up against it and it was rescinded. Don't make the same mistake.

MINIMALLY, stop charging this membership fees for access to information which we provide you. It's not cool. Now with the corporate sponsorship you won't have to worry about money.

davebarnes Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 07:35

I really like VersionTracker and pay for a family subscription every year.

But, I really don't like CNET. I find their reporting to be insipid at best and dangerous at worst.

The good news is that AppFresh just appeared and may be a viable replacement for VersionTracker.

mtjmac Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 08:04

I don't use CNET becasue of all the wonderful other mac sites
that are mac-centric, and with the proliferation of podcasts
out there, you can also get more info in 5 minutes than
CNET can provide in a lifetime.

that being said, if it raises VT's and MF's visibility in
Google, hey more power to you.

But I do agree with others postings, and that I
became highly miffed over the fact
that articles on MF that are 1 day old are only accessible
to "subscribers", and yet it's some of us everyday people
who help report fixing the problems that make MacFixit
viable. To me this is plain wrong, and I often DON'T
CONTRIBUTE, even when I know the answer, because
of this.

I understand you guys gotta pay bandwidth, but c'mon...
MF wouldn't have any worth, outside of Ted's columns,
if users didn't contribute to fix problems, often which
go beyond your guys normal "3 step" reccomendations.

Best of luck with the CNET deal, but until I see some
benefit for the users, it means nothing to me at this point.

And as for VT:
1. Faster page loading and Searching
2. More up to date reporting on Apps ( MacUpdate "scoops" you guys
ALOT)
3. go through and weed out out of date links/pages MORE OFTEN.
a lot of pages for v.1.0, v. 1.2, v.1.3 etc. are out of date and should
be burned.

sjk Says:
Sun, 2007-09-02 23:25

Re: But I do agree with others postings, and that I became highly miffed over the fact that articles on MF that are 1 day old are only accessible to "subscribers", and yet it's some of us everyday people who help report fixing the problems that make MacFixit viable. To me this is plain wrong, and I often DON'T CONTRIBUTE, even when I know the answer, because of this.

No kidding! I stopped making intendedly helpful comments on MacFixIt postings after being shut out too soon too often when checking back for feedback.

People who are most qualified to offer the best suggestions and solutions to a broad variety of issues on MacFixIt are the least likely to pay for subscriptions, yet it's insultingly degrading to demand that they do just for the satisfaction of seeing followups to their own contributions that may include appreciative acknowledgments for any help they've freely and generously offered.

the-crooner Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 08:04

I don't care if you merged with Microsoft... JUST STOP MAKING US PAY TO READ ARCHIVES ON MACFIXIT, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!
I used to pay the $25/month blood money, but now I'm too insulted to be suckered. Make the content free now that you're part of a bigger family with far more resources.

Hawaiian Starman Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 11:43

CNET is nothing more than a mouth piece for Microsoft. I don't see this change as being productive. I will not renew my subscription to MacFixit.

ridgep Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 11:59

I'm afraid I'll have to echo the sentiments of several; CNET has historically published too much anti-Mac, pro-Microsoft items for my taste. Looking at their current laptop reviews, I see they rated the 17" MacBook Pro dead last. It would be so much better if they made at least a pretense of being unbiased...

bstone Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 12:19

VT: you're in serious danger of alienating large portions of your community. I am now switching to MacUpdate.com. Once you cancel this deal with CNET I may consider coming back.

Oh, and I just happen to be the Mac sysadmin at a very large university in Boston.

saronian Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 12:22

Congratulations! You deserve a nice payoff for so many years of dedication. VT, MFI & iPA are three sites I rely on daily. Whereas I checkout CNET a couple times a month.

Maybe there are changes in store for CNET, they certainly recognized the best Mac sites to acquire.

kbeatty Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 12:47

I've watched as CNET has purchased one favorite site after another and slowly let those sites wither and die. I can't believe it's now happened to VersionTracker. Kurt, you have every right to be paid, and although I'm personally disappointed, I wish you the very best. As for me, it's time to explore the competition. I will not be renewing my subscription.

j.a.urban Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 13:02

Just wanted to let you know,because of the CNET takeover,
I too will be switching to MacUpdate.

cindy1974 Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 14:28

CNET is not my idea of a good time.

mugsy! Says:
Thu, 2007-08-30 18:02

Oh dear. I have to say guys I am really disappointed.

I suppose VersionTracker is multi platform and could therefore seem appealing to CNet, but for the life of me I can't see any good reason why CNet is interested in MacFixIt.

Quite a few years ago I visited CNet regularly but gave up when I realised that not only did they do a half hearted attempt at pretending to support the Mac, but they actually tried to discredit the hardware, OS, and Apple computer generally, sometimes very subtly, other times not quite so.

I stopped visiting CNet. I thought then, that it was just me. That I had a bee in my bonnet. But from the comments above I see I wasn't wrong at all and many others picked up on CNet's anti Mac practices also.

Perhaps there is good news in this for Mac users, but why is it that we just can't see it? Why do we have this awful feeling in the pit of our stomachs as we read this news?

Well I must go along with the many others and say when my (pro) subscription expires, I too will not be renewing. Perhaps if CNet prove us wrong, we will come back, but I doubt anyone posting here will be holding their breath!

Good luck to you anyway.

Leemac Says:
Fri, 2007-08-31 04:31

I'll be watching this with caution. Right now....shades of Watson/Sun are flashing by my eyes. I'm praying that CNET does not do what Sun has done...take a superb product and kill it. I just hope your agreement doesn't prevent you from putting your products back on the market if CNET decides to "neglect" them.

CNET now has an option....develop a new, devoted market, or take the CHEAP/COWARD's way out. Mac users don't tolerate crap. I hope CNET understands this. IE: I used to use TaxCut from H&R Block. THEY discontinued TaxCut...I switched to TurboTax. Now TaxCut is back....surprise...I'm still using TurboTax and have no intention of going back unless/until H&R Block shows a vastly superior product on many fronts. I'm not that happy with TurboTax, I'm just STILL PISSED AT H&R BLOCK/TAXCUT FOR DROPPING SUPPORT.

Beware, CNET. DON'T treat us like Windows whores.

bstone Says:
Fri, 2007-08-31 06:32

Folks, please consider signing the below petition indicating your frustration and opposition to this merger:

    http://www.petitiononline.com/mfivtcne/petition.html
rkarimov_dotmac Says:
Fri, 2007-08-31 07:40

Not sure why I see so many negative comments. Personally, I am happy for Kurt and wish him all the best.

It seems that CNET really wants to get into Mac market. They added a Mac section to download.com site. They even posted a real review of 1Passwd a few days ago.

Best regards, Roustem
Co-author of 1Passwd

http://switchersblog.com/
Everyone is switching to Mac!

plustwo Says:
Fri, 2007-08-31 22:56

I have to agree with most of the previous comments ... CNET has too deep and too long of a history of pervasive anti-Mac slant. This is a big mistake for VersionTracker, and a big loss for the Mac community.

VersionTracker, 2007 ... RIP.

Chowman Says:
Sat, 2007-09-01 07:05

1. Dislking CNET for insufficient Mac focus and then being incensed by their acquisition of a couple of great Mac sites is INSANE.

2. The haters angrily stomping out of the room will be back as soon as they need software info. They use VT/MF because it suits their prefs.

3. If CNET switches you guys to an advertising model and nixes the subscription fees, I, a non-subscriber, would be delighted....but those who just forked out $115 for 2 year subs via your August promotion are gonna be PISSED. I guess the fees will remain, though, because that promotion seems an attempt to try to lock in long-term paying subcribers through the changes ahead.

4. Congrats!

Ilgaz Says:
Sun, 2007-09-02 04:51

If VT policies doesn't change, the software submissions stays free and people who does amazing job of updating the entries, reading feedback stays there, CNET is nice for the future of Versiontracker.

CNET is _huge_ and Versiontracker once more proves they are the number 1 choice for Mac users. Remember, that huge company also has download.com Mac edition. They did a great job with their blog etc recently but could never match the versiontracker. VT is a huge community at first, it is much more than download software links.

By acquiring VT, they also admit they didn't make a great job of Mac news/downloads so far. Why would they "kill" Versiontracker while Versiontracker as a small company managed to stay alive after various online (dotcom etc) crashes? VT already proved the model works. People wants credible sites/ real editors/ real support professionals nowadays.

As a "Pro" member, I am glad I must say.

CNET is not like some other company which is famous for taking over great projects and trying to re-invent them, I don't see why they would want to change a working thing. I even think Download.com Mac edition will stay there since it is more like a review site.

I would just congratulate but I had to post these since I think people doesn't know CNET. CNET Networks is a huge media company, e.g. those Mac haters (?) at News.com probably never seen download.com people. 2620 workers based on http://www.answers.com/topic/cnet-networks-inc

primal1 Says:
Wed, 2007-09-05 12:49

This post was removed by me, the original comment poster, since the issue I commented on was apparently temporary and no longer remains the problem I mistakenly thought it was when I originally posted my reply. Sorry for my misperception of a change that is apparently in fact not the case - pro accounts continue to be "ad-free." I regret any inconvenience this may have caused.

sjk Says:
Thu, 2007-09-06 15:08

A status blog that VT staff could post to when the service is having relatively significant problems (as it is again today) could be useful. It's frustrating getting repeated database connection errors, duplicate posts, etc. without some form of acknowledgment from VT that they're aware of these issues.

Cryo Says:
Fri, 2007-09-07 18:48

I think that CNet getting their hands on VersionTracker will only turn it into... download.com all over again. Ads ads ads. slow slow slow.

Ilgaz Says:
Sat, 2007-09-08 00:10

CNET doesn't change an already working thing and download.com is already there preferred for professional reviews by people who favours it.

I think with a billion dollar backing company VT will have less obstrutive ads and faster servers, technologies.

Look to webshots.com, what has changed after CNET acquistion? It stayed same and they made a great semi pro/ advanced photo sharing community.

Cryo Says:
Fri, 2007-09-07 18:49

Yay for software that checks for double posting.

Fossils Says:
Sat, 2007-09-08 07:34

Bye, bye. Take you check and laugh to the bank.

SWriter Says:
Sun, 2007-09-09 11:24

does this mean i can now get a refund for macfixit subscriber/membership fees for 2007 since cnet is ad-driven free sites?

what impact does this have on paid subscriptions?

Ilgaz Says:
Sun, 2007-09-09 22:05

I think you have never seen Versiontracker without "pro" membership. :) There are ads on Versiontracker.com all over the place for non pro members and I really don't think CNET will change a working model of Versiontracker. Remember as well as VT, CNET survived the dotcom crash too.

robyk81 Says:
Sun, 2007-09-09 17:50

i would really like a 1800 number because i did not find what i was looking for and it didnt work for my computer

robyk81 Says:
Sun, 2007-09-09 17:50

i would really like a 1800 number because i did not find what i was looking for and it didnt work for my computer

Frank19 Says:
Thu, 2007-09-13 12:13

I have never heard of CNET, but comments so far are not very reassuring!

Personally, I hope that the combined company will find a way of making the VT interface more Mac-like. I have still not worked out how to do a one-button update of my software so that VT knows what apps I have on my Mac now (as opposed to what I had when I joined many years ago).

Also, I hope that responses to emails will be faster - likewise with downloads.

Let's see how it all pans out.

Kind Regards

FRANK

Frank19 Says:
Thu, 2007-09-13 12:13

I have never heard of CNET, but comments so far are not very reassuring!

Personally, I hope that the combined company will find a way of making the VT interface more Mac-like. I have still not worked out how to do a one-button update of my software so that VT knows what apps I have on my Mac now (as opposed to what I had when I joined many years ago).

Also, I hope that responses to emails will be faster - likewise with downloads.

Let's see how it all pans out.

Kind Regards

FRANK

Frank19 Says:
Thu, 2007-09-13 12:13

I have never heard of CNET, but comments so far are not very reassuring!

Personally, I hope that the combined company will find a way of making the VT interface more Mac-like. I have still not worked out how to do a one-button update of my software so that VT knows what apps I have on my Mac now (as opposed to what I had when I joined many years ago).

Also, I hope that responses to emails will be faster - likewise with downloads.

Let's see how it all pans out.

Kind Regards

FRANK

Frank19 Says:
Thu, 2007-09-13 12:13

I have never heard of CNET, but comments so far are not very reassuring!

Personally, I hope that the combined company will find a way of making the VT interface more Mac-like. I have still not worked out how to do a one-button update of my software so that VT knows what apps I have on my Mac now (as opposed to what I had when I joined many years ago).

Also, I hope that responses to emails will be faster - likewise with downloads.

Let's see how it all pans out.

Kind Regards

FRANK

Man Cubus Says:
Thu, 2007-09-13 13:42

I too will not tolerate abundant ads on this site. All that Flash crawling slime and posters of happy consumer people make me sick and dizzy.
If not, why exactly they bought the site for???

the1silverwolf Says:
Sun, 2007-10-14 11:29

I for one hate to see good sights purchased and corrupted by big business.

It has happened countless times in the past and may happen to versiontracker if you're not careful.

Stephanie Mitchell Says:
Mon, 2007-10-22 07:38

Hi all:

I have a pro account and yes, I'm logged in. I still get little ads cropping up here and there. Personally, I don't care if anyone paid to put them up; I paid to NOT see ads. Any ads.

Please fix.

Bob Keck Says:
Thu, 2007-10-25 14:42

NOW I READ ALL THE COMMENTS,
YES I HAD A GET DEAL OF TROUBLE TRING TO PURCHASE YOUR VERSIONTRACKER,
SOUNDS GOOD,IF IT WORKS?
================
NOW I READ AND SEE NEARLY EVERY COMPLAINT REFERRES TO THIS BEING A "MAC" PROGRAM???
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I SURE AM GLAD YOUR PAYMENT METHODS NO LONGER ACCEPT EXCEPT PAYPAL????? ( I WILL LET THEM KNOW)
(VersionTracker joins the CNET family)
I WOULD NEVER LIVE THIS DOWN, SPENDING GOOD MONEY FOR A MAC TOOL????
WHAT A FOOL AM I?
BOB KECK
VALLEJO, CA

Bob Keck Says:
Thu, 2007-10-25 14:49

WHAT A JOKE THIS IS,
I DID TRY 4 TIMES TO GET SOME DIRECTION???
EACH TIME POP UP CAME BACK SAYING,
ONLY ONE QUESTION AHEAD OF YOU????
AFTER ABOUT 10 OR 15 MINUTES IT SENDS A NEW POP UP TO SAY,,,
EVERY ONE IS TOO BUSY???
TRY AGAIN LATER.
YEP SURE ENOUGH!!! ONLY ONE QUESTION AHAED OF YOU!!!!
BOY IT MUST HAVE BEEN A GOOD ONE??
ALL I WANTED TO KNOW WAS HOW TO PAY!
EVERY TIME I TRIED, I WENT IN A CIRCLE AND KICKED ME OFF.
BOB KECK
THE DUMMY FROM VALLEJO,
CC.
J DAVORAC ON COMPUTERS:)
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TRY NOT TO LET ALL THE RAIN UP THERE, MAKE MOSS GROW ON YOR FEEL.

Razzledazzle Says:
Sun, 2007-10-28 10:34

Macupdate.com is better and usually "scoops" VT.

dogfish23 Says:
Mon, 2007-10-29 05:35

Useless for Driver updates!!!. Can't even provide an easy way to get Windows driver updated versions. other update agents better at it. The free Driver Max identifies the obsolete drivers as well and it too is can't download updates but at the price of $00.00 it is a great product.

Philscbx Says:
Tue, 2007-10-30 21:04

What is starting to piss me off is You go to your OS listing to see what is out there. For example OX10.4 Tiger.

You select what is supposed to be an Editor's pick, or Top loaded application and see the reviews as total pile of BS. WTF?

Maybe 2 out of 50 maybe have a worth while chance.
I just checked out a Spyware listing, and fine out the guy promoting it is a total fraud. WTF? Why is it even listed?

I find the site a total waste of time.
If the program listed for the OS selected doesn't have at least 5 stars, then why show it period.
Why is it a 'Top Pick' when it's Crap to everyone who's tried it?

Have a list in a separate category for the worst of applications.
Fill that one first.

Thanks' Anyway,
I'm out of here with better things to do.