All GUI is like that - APGiuliano

We DO use something else, we use OnyX! LOL, LMAO, ROFL, ROFLMAO!

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Friday, October 17 2003 @ 02:03 PM PDT

All GUI is like that - Kugo

- After all, isn't OS X really just charging to use Terminal commands?

I hope this is tongue in cheek and no more. On top of FreeBSD you have a lot of work with Cocoa and Carbon - 'Aqua'. The interface is better than KDE or Gnome, and you pay for it.

Just because it's free wouldn't mean it's free anyway. Free in this context refers to the source code being there for you to alter - not to the product costing nothing.

- Why do we need the Finder at all, right?

We don't need the Finder. Anyone dependent on that program is truly lame.

- It's a free country (the one I live in, anyway).

You're a classic, my friend. And FWIW, you're far from as free as you've deluded yourself into thinking.

But whatever: The C runtime library is a lot of stuff like this - it's 'convenience' work. It's stuff programmers could write (most good programmers can write anything) but the library saves them the time. Simple things like strcmp are a convenience and no more.

What I object to is selling supposedly esoteric information for a dollar. A lot of people, for example, would rather someone just told them how to tweak their MTU, instead of hiding the secret in an application. At the end of the day this program, while a convenience to some, can feel like blackmail to others.

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Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 01:47 AM PDT