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Web browser with a sleek interface, better tabs and Turbo to speed up slow connections.

Version:  10.01

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Yet more aggravations

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Contributed by: Cowicide Tuesday, September 08 2009 @ 06:41 PM PDT

Product Platform: MacOSX

Used Product For: Over One Year

Recommend Product: NO

When you command-click links, images, etc. to have them open in another tab, it automatically makes you jump to the new tab instead of loading in the background unless you right-click the link, etc. and choose a contextual menu item to have it load in the background. I've searched in vain to change this command-click behavior and found nothing. Can't use this app because of this.

There's also a bug with loading images, but I guess they'll fix that later?

I'm excited to see if this will speed up my browsing while using 3G, etc. when I'm out and about and don't have access to a hotspot, etc., but between the crappy tab behavior, the really crappy bookmark importing and bugs... I'm disappointed and will wait to see what happens before I bother with this any further...   

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command+shift+click - Rufus J

How hard could you have looked? You're already using a keyboard shortcut, so you shouldn't complain about using the shift key in addition. However, if that's too much, you can reverse these shortcuts in prefs so that command+click opens the link in the background tab and cmd+shift+click opens and jumps to a new tab.

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 07:30 AM PDT


command+shift+click - Cowicide

> How hard could you have looked?

Hmmm... how "hard" should I look for something as basic and simple as this? I looked in the the preferences under TABS. That is where TAB behaviors should be altered. This is NOT Windows, my friend... this is a Mac. Firefox and Safari are intuitive; why isn't Opera?

The Opera Devs should quit trying to reinvent the wheel with their interface and focus on speed and stability. If we have to hunt around for something as simple as making the tab behavior act like every udder browser for Mac; then there is a problem.

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 09:38 AM PDT


command+shift+click - Rufus J

You're welcome! Surely you meant to say thank you for solving this deal-breaker problem for you before you were distracted by other things. Turns out the problem isn't a lack of capability, just one of knowledge. Good luck :)

Opera has a forum, Google is full of information. It's just not that hard if you're genuinely interested. Or, are you mostly interested in coming here to whine and rant?

Btw, Opera was using tabs for several years before Firefox and Safari. Who should be following whom?

As always, RTM, ask around, try things out.

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 10:17 AM PDT


command+shift+click - Cowicide

> Turns out the problem isn't a lack of capability, just one of knowledge.

Wrong. It really turns out there's a lack of a intuitive GUI for Opera. The TABS settings should be... where the TAB settings are... just like Firefox and Safari. It just makes sense. To put the tab settings elsewhere is moronic.

> are you mostly interested in coming here to whine and rant?
> Opera was using tabs for several years before Firefox and Safari.
> Who should be following whom?

Ok, I see now... you are an Opera fanboy. I'm ever so sorry I dared to talk about the love of your life. When's the last time you felt the touch of a woman anyway?

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 11:47 AM PDT


command+shift+click - Rufus J

That's too funny! YES it was a lack of knowledge! Opera can do what you wanted but you didn't know. Jeez, you are on arrogant little pinhead!

Your second comment is just plain bizarre. You dumped on Opera for not following the lead of your favorite browsers and get all pissy when you find out Opera was there first. What a charming fellow you are. Have a nice day :)

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 01:36 PM PDT


command+shift+click - Cowicide

I love you, Rufus.

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 11:46 PM PDT


would you care to elaborate? - Rufus J

Can you describe the image loading bug? Did you submit a bug report to Opera?

With all due respect, I can't remember the last time I imported bookmarks. Why is this such an important task? I suspect that for most users, it's pretty much a one time operation. I have found Opera's bookmark management to be pretty simple, and arranging the personal bar is just a matter of dragging the bookmarks to whatever position you want them. Perhaps you haven't made it clear enough what you're trying to do that's giving you problems?

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 07:40 AM PDT


would you care to elaborate? - Cowicide

I cared to elaborate and I elaborated earlier in another post on the bookmark import issue. You may "never" import bookmarks and not care because you are an avid Opera user, but the rest of us who avidly use Safari and Firefox do want seamless importing of bookmarks into Opera. If it wasn't such an important issue/feature then why on earth does Firefox make it an important part of its installation process for every single user?

If you want to see the issue... try importing bookmarks from Safari into Firefox and compare the results with doing the same with Opera. Opera sucks at this. Also, changing bookmarks just to icons and folders when the window is made narrow is yet another dumb move on the Opera dev's part. Great, so now I have no idea what is in which bookmark bar folder?? Too silly to warrant laughter.

Opera needs work... and I don't have time to beta test something they aren't calling a beta (when they should).

That's said, I wish you dev's luck... I love the turbo idea (if it really works).

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 09:48 AM PDT


would you care to elaborate? - Rufus J

I can't find any previous mention of an image loading bug in your comments.

Opera allows you to choose to wrap your toolbars or show an extender button, which should allow you two different methods to maintain the display of both the text and the bookmark icon. Would either of those be what you are looking for? You can edit your toolbars independently so you can wrap the tab bar without wrapping the personal bar or wrap them both, etc. Again, why don't you ask some questions? Maybe people who know more than you (gasp!!!) would help you.

I still don't understand from your explanation of the bookmark problem what you mean about the titles not appearing until you select the boomark's properties. This isn't a problem I see when dragging bookmarks from the manager window to the bar.

If you have the time to post these rants here at Versiontracker, you have time to post a comment on the Opera forum, where you may get helpful response and feedback.

Just for the record, I am an Opera user, but not a dev. Yes, Opera has bugs, and they affect different people different ways. Yes, Opera does some things differently, but frankly I disagree that all by itself that's a criticism. It also does some things no other browser does at all, or not nearly as conveniently.

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 11:39 AM PDT


would you care to elaborate? - Cowicide

> I can't find any previous mention of an image loading bug
> in your comments.

That's an error between your computer and your chair.

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 11:49 AM PDT


oh? - Rufus J

Searching your name shows two posts on Opera 10 and the only thing you've said here about a bug loading images is that there is one and you suppose they'll fix it sometime.

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Wednesday, September 09 2009 @ 01:48 PM PDT


would you care to elaborate? - rhpatrick22

Looks like you have a lot of growing to do; Bookmarks were imported and arranged without any problems; the tab drawer is where it is supposed to be, and having unteen number of Tabs open and recognized causes no problems. Opera was the first browser to implement tabs way before Firefox and Safari; I have used it in my OS 9 days with no problems then and now.The problem is the requirement of preferences required to satisfy the needs of a few. That is society, and lack of communication to that requirement; rather a complaint is issued based on lack of preference

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Friday, October 30 2009 @ 06:53 AM PDT


2nd the Emotion: Aggravation - brianjansorge

Every time I download the "latest & greatest" version of this highly touted (by "geeks," mostly, from what I can tell), I am very disappointed.

IF that offends some people here. Oh Waaahhhhh.

Grow up. Get a life. Whatever.

I use *several* browsers on a fairly regular basis. Safari. Firefox. Camino. OmniWeb.

Opera? The GUI is ugly. Pure and simple. No matter *which* "skin" is applied, so don't even go there. All my other browsers (even Shiira) look good --- right out of the box. Opera is ugly, no matter what!

And, YES, it seems like Opera does everything differently --- as if *trying* to be obtuse. Different for Different's sake. Or something. Yes, there is probably some reason why the menu bars are the way they are (can't imagine what those reasons are) and there is probably some way to change the order [top vs bottom, etc], but I'll be damned if I could figure it out. I tried. Sucks when you've been using computers since 1986 and are comfortable with a half-dozen browswers and you struggle with using just *one* browser.

That would be Opera.

And for all of the *whiners* that want to *whine* because I think Opera sucks --- go phuck yourselves. It's my opinion. You have yours. Use Opera if you want. Nothing is stopping *you* from using it.

Just like nothing is stopping me from deleting it from my computer . . .

PLONK

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Saturday, October 31 2009 @ 03:14 AM PDT