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They better explain why they don't support pre 10.5

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Contributed by: Ilgaz Wednesday, June 17 2009 @ 08:38 PM PDT

Product Platform: MacOSX

Used Product For: Less than a month

Recommend Product: NO

While it is not "loved" like VLC, Quicktime is a huge Framework, does huge amount of work even while if you never used that "player" everyone seems to hate. It comes from Apple which makes living by selling OS and hardware.

Quicktime, as for today, supports OS X Tiger. Supporting 10.3.9 (Panther) is really almost impossible. Only the tools carefully designed not to be hit by OS update issues can still support pre 10.4.0 (Vuescan etc.)

What I try to say is, VLC guys must really explain, in technical sense: Why 10.4.11 is not supported. Who/What to blame? All would say "It must be Apple, stupid" while I don't really think so. Apple maintains, enhances a gigantic media framework named Quicktime. Almost whole OS X can't function without it. I heard they loved GCC 4.2 in XCode 3.x update and they tried to drop PPC support for it while way more complex sources (e.g. KDE 4) doesn't only compile fine with gcc 4.2, even compiles better. KDE 4 is huge... Real huge and yet they didn't say "no 10.4.11" or "No PowerPC".

There are still people who can't use Leopard on their Macs. Apple didn't abandon them (at least, yet) and open source tool abandons them. That is the thing I am concerned about. Not like I am stuck in Tiger or something.

They also give a very wrong signal like... People could think "Well, after a while, it will be snow leopard only... lets stick with closed source which still supports our configurations".   

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They better explain why they don't support pre 10.5 - mmmgood

1. The Video LAN project has no obligations to anyone. This is free software.

2. If you're using an older operating system, use an older version of VLC.

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Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:08 AM PDT


They better explain why they don't support pre 10.5 - mendres82

I really hope to see Tiger and PPC supported, don't tell me about technical issues, RC3 was available for these platforms. Yes, it is free software, but I guess critics is ok, because the step away from older platforms is really not a technical thing.

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Thursday, June 18 2009 @ 04:36 AM PDT


They better explain why they don't support pre 10.5 - douglas_ppc

I can try to explain, I found this during my failed attempts to build VLC 1.0 (but really not VLC itself, but llvm-gcc42) on OS X Tiger.

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1. https://trac.macports.org/ticket/20349

VLC also now depends on llvm-gcc42, which doesn't currently build on Mac OS X 10.4; see #19262.

2. http://www.nabble.com/LLVM-on-Mac-OS-X-Tiger-10.4.11-td22797827.html

> Looks like I was a little too ambitious in getting version LLVM-2.5 to
> build on Mac OS X Tiger which uses gcc 4.0.1. LLVM -2.2 built fine.

LLVM 2.3 was the last release that was qualified on Tiger. We need members
from the community to step up an maintain LLVM and llvm-gcc on Tiger. I no
longer have a Tiger machine when doing releases.
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So the actual problem is unability to compile LLVM 2.5 on Tiger using Tiger Xcode's gcc.

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Sunday, July 19 2009 @ 02:22 AM PDT