Firefox
web browser
Version: 3.0.4
This should still be in BETA!
Feedback Type: Review
Contributed by: Cowicide Wednesday, June 18 2008 @ 07:11 PM PDT
Product Platform: MacOSX
Used Product For: Over One Year
Recommend Product: NO
Welp, I've had some time to run this across various sites that work perfectly fine in all other browser on Windows and Mac (including Firefox 2) and they are falling apart in Firefox 3. Not handling background images properly, loading up Flash improperly, etc. and basically wrecking website appearances. I cringe that so many people are downloading Firefox 3 right now and are going to sites that have been properly developed but now will appear "broken" to these unwitting web users. The problem is, this is not a beta release (even though it really, really should be) and average web users are going to download this and experience broken sites. This will hurt developers who are trying to get in sales for development work and have web users find that their sites are "broken" and not hire them. This is a disaster, they should pull the plug on this NOW and go back into beta and fully resolve these issues or I smell potential lawsuits on the horizon. I thought wrecking developers work was the domain of Microsoft, I guess times are changing.
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This should still be in BETA! - versiontracker2007
Please provide a list of example sites that are "broken" in Firefox 3.I have been using it for several days now, and have not spotted a single "broken" site. Since you make it sound so dire, one would expect to find "broken" sites wherever one turns, and so far, nada. Not a one. Not an image astray, not a line of text askew, not a pixel out of place. I didn't even change my profile, just tossed the new version in on top of the old version.
Which leads me to wonder if it's not a) user error or b) some other agenda to badmouth it.
Firefox 3 rocks. Version 2 was painfully slow on my machine, both in launching and in general browsing, beachballing at every page load. Firefox 3 is fast, sleek, hasn't hung, crashed or rendered badly in probably 18 hours of (non-continuous) use.
Without specifics of the problem and examples, your diatribe holds little water.
Thursday, June 19 2008 @ 10:11 AM PDT
I'm not the only one, guys... - Cowicide
> children will STARVE, we'll get hit by ASTEROIDS> and DARKNESS WILL RULE THE UNIVERSE!
Or maybe sites will break because they didn't beta test the thing well enough and then went with pushing for a world record in amount of downloads to get it in a ton of people's hands half-baked. No, it won't kill any children, but it still really is quite a blunder.
> check your input managers folder and pull out all the junk there.
> And deactivate your haxies and application enhancer,
Chowman, I did something easier, I trashed FF3 and everything is fine with every other browser I use. BTW, I replicated the problems on 3 Mac machines and a Windows machine with FF3. It ain't APE or input managers causing FF3 rendering problems, it's poor testing & development. Stop trying to kill the messenger.
> This software was phenomenally thoroughly/rigorously beta tested
> And it works like a charm for me and vast numbers of other users.
Maybe vast number of users beta tested it, but not a vast enough amount of sites. I'm sorry you've got your panties in a bunch, but your hero app here has some issues. It'll be OK, they just need to go back to beta.
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> Please provide a list of example sites that are "broken" in Firefox 3.
Try Google and you'll get your list and it's only been around, what? A day or two? You can start here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=672255&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
> I have been using it for several days now, and have not spotted a single "broken" site.
Welp, I'm glad the two porn sites you go to still work, but that's not exactly a consensus, is it?
> Which leads me to wonder if it's not a) user error or b) some other agenda to badmouth it.
You got it, buddy. It's user error and I don't don't know how to work this newfangled browser that's so different to operate than Safari, Firefox 2, Camino, Internet Explorer 6 & 7 that I test with. Also, you're right... I work for Microsoft and I figure my post on versiontracker will finally do Moz in.
> Version 2 was painfully slow on my machine, both in launching
> and in general browsing, beachballing at every page load.
Actually, Firefox 2 works great for me, which leads me to wonder if it's not a) user error or b) some other agenda to badmouth it on your part. XD
> Without specifics of the problem and examples, your diatribe holds little water.
I gave specifics and I reported the sites to the devs. If you want to find examples, fire up Google and you'll see for yourself.
Moron Disclaimer: I actually like Firefox and recommend it to all my Windows clients. For Mac, I prefer Safari, but also see a lot of advantages with Firefox extensions, plugs, whatever. Oh, and please don't tell Bill I own a Mac.
BTW guys:
Using the acid3.com test, Firefox scores a poor 71/100.
Web kit builds of Safari are now scoring 97/100.
Friday, June 20 2008 @ 01:19 AM PDT
I'm not the only one, guys... - versiontracker2007
You're a fu-c-king d-i-ck. I could tell that from the beginning, but your "porn site" crack proves it.You don't deserve any technical assistance. You just need mental assistance.
Monday, July 28 2008 @ 03:01 PM PDT
This should still be in BETA! - Chowman
...and...and....children will STARVE, we'll get hit by ASTEROIDS, and DARKNESS WILL RULE THE UNIVERSE!Aptly named "Cowicide": first, check your input managers folder and pull out all the junk there. And deactivate your haxies and application enhancer, if you've got 'em (and you shouldn't...they're notoriously destabilizing). Remove all your firefox stuff and do a fresh install. Try again. And don't have a cow.
This software was phenomenally thoroughly/rigorously beta tested. And it works like a charm for me and vast numbers of other users.
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Thursday, June 19 2008 @ 06:05 AM PDT