It's always interesting to read comments bashing Microsoft (including the typical $ instead of S), regardless of the accuracy of the comments.
Office 2008 (12.0) was released. It had bugs. Some have been fixed. More will be fixed as long as people report them to Microsoft.
Since it was announced over a year ago that there will be no support for VBA with this version, I also kept my 2004 version. This was no surprise, although it is a shame.
I have not used Office 2008 extensively, but I have found no stability problems, launch speed seems adequate at 10 seconds or so per application, and I have had no crashes with any application. iWork applications launch faster, at 6 seconds or so on my system.
I began posting comments for each application, but the post became too long. So just to address the previous review:
I can open Events in Entourage by double-clicking. For one Event I was asked whether I wanted to open all events or a single occurrence given that it was a recurring event. I had no problems opening it. For another Event, I double-clicked and it opened. I'm considering an Event as an appointment or occurrence on my calendar.
The "STUPID Elements Gallery toolbar" is quite useful and a time-saver for many tasks, and people can add their custom Elements. Definitely a time-saver for many.
The toolbar is almost 5 millimeters in height in my display, or just a bit taller than my cursor. A little less than 2% of the screen space occupied by Word on my system, and shorter than a regular toolbar. I would like to have an option to remove it or add it as I do with other toolbars, but I would not call it "a giant waste of screen real estate" especially since it expands and contracts with a single mouse click.
Microsoft has a long list of known issues with the 2008 version, which people can find here:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.mspx
Despite the loss of VBA, it has been a decent upgrade. So far PowerPoint has allowed me to view presentations that used to crash with 2004. Entourage has issues with rules and categories that have been easily fixed. I've opened large documents with Word, 1 and 2 MB in size, as fast as Pages but Pages messed up the formatting. I opened a 2 MB Excel file with 56 Charts and many Megaformulas and it worked smoothly. Overall, my INITIAL impressions are positive in spite of the current issues with Office 2008.
I decided to post this "early" review to give current and/or potential users a different perspective.
My rating for the price is based on the promo I used. Microsoft has offered some serious discounts, even making the Special Media Edition available for around $40. Too bad I missed that one!
If you need VBA, keep a copy of Office 2004.
Microsoft Office 2008
Entourage, PowerPoint, Excel, Word suite.
Version: 12.2.3
Needs improvement, but it's not that bad
Feedback Type: Review
Contributed by: epc Wednesday, March 12 2008 @ 04:11 AM PDT
Product Platform: MacOSX
Used Product For: Less than a month
Recommend Product: YES
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Comments
Needs improvement, but it's not that bad - mepavitt
Thank you for a non-emotional (objective) review. Many have been outbursts against MS and not necessarily well grounded as to IT skills. While it would be nice to have these things "idiot-proof", it just doesn't appear to go with the territory. Have NOT installed 2008 as yet because 2004 is working OK and there have been sooooooooo many negative posts on 2008. WIll be interested in how it responds for you over the next 48 - 72 hours.Wednesday, March 12 2008 @ 06:50 AM PDT
Needs improvement, but it's not that bad - epc
Just to give you a quick update, and a few caveats.1. I have not used the programs extensibly. It will take me a few months to do so :-)
2. I've used mostly Entourage, and have found the following issues:
- Categories were not assigned to the folders that I imported from Entourage. Assigning categories is quick and easy.
- Rules were imported, but I've had to re-select some folders in order for the rule to work. Easy fix.
- I reinstalled Spam Sieve's scripts. Easy fix.
3. For the main document that I'm working on I'll keep on using Word 2004, since I'm using a template that will not work on 2008.
BTW, regarding my original comment, the Elements Gallery toolbar does not show in certain views such as Draft or Outline.
4. Most of the Excel documents I've opened have VBA code, so they don't work on 2008. It's not a big problem for me, though. From what I remember most of the code was for selecting areas, printing, and so on, so that people could perform these functions at the click of a button. Annoying, but it was expected and announced over a year ago.
5. PowerPoint opens presentations that would crash 2004. So far 2008 has not crashed. Chances are that I will use Keynote 4 for making presentations. It's the only iWork application that I would use instead of an Office one.
If possible, I would suggest that you keep a version of 2004 as well.
I hope this helps.
Friday, March 14 2008 @ 02:52 PM PDT
Needs improvement, but it's not that bad - RWE0107
A well written review. While I haven't put the update through extensive testing, I'm not having the problems others seem to be having.Reply to This
Wednesday, March 12 2008 @ 04:42 AM PDT