Pathetic review - GGGlen

For those of you that prefer to rant (without bothering with details such as facts), the HACKS to the iPhone were made possible because of a SECURITY FLAW in iPhones software.
Since Apple is somewhat obligated to fix FLAWS which could COMPROMISE MY DATA, I, for one, have NO PROBLEM awaiting the SDK that'll allow REAL 3RD PARTY SOFTWARE to be written.
Tell ya what... for those of you that'd rather complain about Apple fixing buffer overflows that could conceivably allow the arbitrary execution of code on your phones... why don't you just keep on complaining, but if/when something bad happens to you or your data, remember that it was YOU that attacked Apple for wanting it fixed.
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Friday, November 09 2007 @ 05:18 PM PST

Pathetic review - DrDave

First: This wasn't a review, it was commentary. The board is messed up in that the heading now says it is commentary about 1.1.1 instead of 1.1.2. The previous update brought some positive, useful improvements and I installed it even though it wiped out my personal ringtones and third party applications. But I reinstalled them when it became possible to do so. So far it looks like I will wait on 1.1.2 and thus there is no way my comments should be taken as anything other than commentary. You might still regard them as pathetic, but please don't insinuate they were intended as a review.

Second: To answer other respondents - we need to discern here between 'jailbreaking' and unlocking. Jailbreaking would have proven entirely unnecessary if Apple had provided a reasonable (i.e., not entirely web oriented which is really lame if you don't have wifi (touch) or sufficiently fast wireless access) development environment from the outset. As for unlocking, I think we could have an entire forum dedicated to airing people's opinions on this issue. I'm hitched with AT&T for now and will see it through, but they would not have been my preferred choice if there had been another. My phone works most of the time, but every now and then the EDGE service goes AWOL even with a full set of signal bars. Choice would be nice and probably would be a greater driver for AT&T to improve service.

Finally: My commentary to free the iPhone is really oriented at making it accessible to non-Apple programmers. It runs a powerful OS and is clearly capable of being much, much more than a phone that plays music. Lots of very excited people would clearly like to help achieve that before the next model with all sorts of improvements (that are likely as not going to require pioneers to shovel more money to Apple) appears in January at the Expo. Apple can close exploitable defects in their software without wiping away users' ringtones and deleting third-party software. I really like being able to make voice memos (really useful-you should try it) and to be able to search events and contacts. The latter is helpful when I have notes about a person, but can't remember their name. Sort of strange how such a basic thing wasn't there to start with and is still missing three update cycles in, isn't it? I've been with Apple since 1984 and love many of their products, but they are at their worst when they head off in an arrogant we know best sort of way instead of embracing and fully supporting third party efforts. Some things are hard to understand about them - why did Leopard's final version wind up in journalists' hands (a few chosen) a week early, but not in developers' hands until release day? Remember, the developers paid for access and most needed it to iron out the impact of last minute changes. Hard to understand. There was no reason for that. How could not having add event capability to the calendar at the outset on the iPod touch be interpreted as anything other than intentional crippling? Once the touch was jailbroken, this capability was easily added in more than a month before the 1.1.2 update (and most of the delay was for the time needed to uncover the exploits).

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Friday, November 09 2007 @ 10:00 PM PST

Not Pathetic Update - hzink

Well,Dr.Dave, I for one prefer Apple to evolve the iPhone on their own terms and time, then end up with an unstable mess, like the kind of products the pizza and caffeine-enhanced cola crowd provides us...

You may want to check the facts, that the only reason so many iPhones were bricked, was *not* due to anything Apple did, but rather the shoddy and rushed work done by the 'iPhone Dev Team' (who, I might add, never came through on their 'promise' to release a fix for bricked iPhones -- another group, the iPhone Elite team released the subsequent fix, and also documented how the 'iPhone Dev Team' messed up.

Granted, Apple rushed the iPhone as well (otherwise there would not have been any of the exploits we all know about), but at least what they provided is stable, and as long as things are followed through on their terms, it will remain reliable and stable.

Thus, all said, I'm fine with Apple's plan -- simply, because Apple *has* a distinctive plan for the iPhone, and one I happen to agree with.

Shortsighted, impatient ADD fanbois might not agree, I'm sure.

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Friday, November 09 2007 @ 05:37 PM PST

Pathetic Update - bruce@desertmoon.net

Are we jaded or what... the first product is out a couple of months and we expect, no demand a shopping cart of features. Have you been paying attention to what Steve has been saying?

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Friday, November 09 2007 @ 08:39 PM PST

announced plans for iphone based apps - Elmo151

jobs has announced plans for iphine based apps. before release they will be vetted by apple.

smart. the contents of my iphone are too important to let some not quite competent mess it up.

BTW several apps (e.g., 1password) have managed to develop quite useful iphone applications

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Monday, November 12 2007 @ 03:32 PM PST

Pathetic Update - aandroid3

get a grip buddy. it is just a machine

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Monday, November 12 2007 @ 08:13 PM PST