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WHEN DID QXP JUMP-THE-SHARK™ ???

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Contributed by: Siskel & Ebert Tuesday, January 09 2007 @ 08:37 PM PST

Product Platform: MacOSX

Used Product For: Over One Year

Recommend Product: YES

This seems like it would make a fun thread:

I have been using Xpress since version 3-- where we'd have to mail in a floppy disk for registration and spend hundreds of dollars in kick-butt 3rd-party extensions. (BADIA & ALAP, you rule!) It has always been the standard for electronic prepress and design. The regression started when Quark took rock-solid v3.3.1 and broke it with v 4.0 --- soon enough 4.1 came out and it once became the de-facto standard, until OS X (10.0) was introduced in late 2000. Everyone, (Adobe, Macromedia, Microsoft) were rushing to make OS X aqua versions of their software while the geniuses at Quark were insisting on adding their Web authoring tools to v 4.1 so they could sell v 5.0. I even got a beta-version CD and a cool t-shirt from a Quark tech at a show asking for input. I asked about OS X compatibility, he laughed. I told him back then... Anyway, while Quark was fumbling with v 5.0, Adobe released a piece-of-junk version of inDesign and managed to break Illustrator, v 10. Adobe heavily developed and polished it up. Quark was still fumbling around with their Web tools in OS 9 and decided that moving their tech support to a 3rd-world country and raising their prices to $800 would help sell more software. Soon, the Mac designers, predominately all migrated to OS X by then and were growing proficient with inDesign, because Quark was lagging. The printshops, primarily all VERY STABLE OS 9 + QXP 4.1 stations now had to deal with a butt-load of inDesign PDFs. Now, in 2007, the printshops/bureaus are realizing that inDesign-generated PDF's aren't too bad and are preferring them over raw/native files... Anyway, I lived in QuarkXpress commercially for several years, still use the keyboard commands with inDesign (I couldn't even tell you what they were, you'd have to ask my fingers) but I still miss the way that Xpress redraws the screen and handles text and greeking. Still a slightly faster work flow than inDesign. Quark dropped the price, brought back academic-pricing but I think it's too late! I stopped upgrading at v 6.5. It's going to take a free upgrade to 7 and another cool t-shirt to get me to revisit. You ole QXP users, please share your good memories here.   

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WHEN DID QXP JUMP-THE-SHARK™ ??? - ol_pip

Bang right on! I started with v3.2 and by the time v5 surfaced it was bye-bye Quark. Couldn't believe the (lack of) support. And the same as you - give me that free update for sticking in there for as long as I did is the only way they'll get back my ranting about their product.

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Tuesday, January 09 2007 @ 10:42 PM PST


WHEN DID QXP JUMP-THE-SHARK™ ??? - tmccain

My best memory is when I told my Quark customers that for roughly the same price they could invest in Adobe Creative Suite 2 which includes InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop instead of buying Quark 7. And for a bit more they could add Acrobat Professional to it. Now instead of using Quark daily I'm down to weekly and my design customers are happy as clams!

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Wednesday, January 10 2007 @ 05:38 AM PST


WHEN DID QXP JUMP-THE-SHARK™ ??? - edac2

You're right, S&E. Remember when Quark charged extra for the PPC-native version when everyone else included 68K and PPC versions for the same price? Version 6 is so bad I cringe every time I have to use it. And don't get me started on the folly of "projects" containing multiple "layouts"!

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Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 08:59 AM PST


WHEN DID QXP JUMP-THE-SHARK™ ??? - edac2

You're right, S&E. Remember when Quark charged extra for the PPC-native version when everyone else included 68K and PPC versions for the same price? Version 6 is so bad I cringe every time I have to use it. And don't get me started on the folly of "projects" containing multiple "layouts"!

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Wednesday, January 31 2007 @ 09:00 AM PST