The craft of notation is a complex and tedious one. Making software to do this is no doubt very challenging. The test is: "Would this be quicker by hand?" Ideally, the software should be intuitive and simple on the surface, and have "power-user" settings just below the surface that allow us to make settings that speed things up, and make things clear. In short, it needs to be kept simple, but with the power, flexibility and speed to make it worth choosing over the pen.
My first few sessions with Sibelius had more than the usual number of snags and confusing moments. Fortunately, Sibelius has excellent support which answered questions within 24 hours.
There are aspects of the program that I found needlessly cumbersome. For example, the keypad has a button for note values, a generic "rests" button and a "dotted" button. I think I'd have preferred to press one button for a dotted note, rather than to have to press a note value plus a dot, or to have to press the rests button plus a note value plus a dot. It does give more range of possible values with fewer buttons, but it's cumbersome and it creates problems when editing existing music.
I chose a swing piece in 6/4 which I wanted to playback in 6. Sibelius insists on forcing a dotted-half to be a beat. There was no way to change this, but I could slow the tempo down to 33 bpm, and set the click to do sub-divisions.
Sibelius allows you to have straight-eighths with "swung" playback, but it doesn't let you input "swung" notes without adding a step to unswing them.
Along with time-signature settings, Sibelius should allow the user to define what value equals a beat, and what kind of click we want. It should also have an edit grid which the user could set to any note value (including tuplets) so that notes can be nudged left & right by grid points.
The music itself looks good, the spacing is easily managed (better than Finale).
Admittedly, I have only spent a few hours with the program & manuals, but I can safely say that in the "battle" between Sibelius & Finale, the differences are more subtle than I had hoped. Both programs require dealing with some limitations, and confusing interface elements. Sibelius does more hand-holding than Finale.
Sibelius gives better feedback for what is in the score. Selecting a note plays the correct sounding notes / chords. (Selecting transposing notes in Finale sounds notes as they are written -- not as they should sound!)
My most greatest wish for a future (UB) version of Sibelius is to have a user-defined shortcut/commands list. Have a long list of navigational commands, note & rest values, nudge, etc. etc. and let the user assign key combos and MIDI notes to any of them.
It is possible that Sibelius could evolve into a more clear and usable system. The problem is that in order for the software to become that, current users would have to let go of the complicated procedures they've learned and replace them with simpler more intuitive ones.
Perhaps Sibelius will prepare for a little face-lift.
Sibelius
Music notation: notate, edit, play back, publish music.
Version: 6.1.0
Many nice features, not as friendly as it claims, needs work
Feedback Type: Review
Contributed by: sonicraft Thursday, October 12 2006 @ 09:28 AM PDT
Product Platform: MacOSX
Used Product For: 1-6 months
Recommend Product: YES
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No . . . - hkim
Sibelius is not the first software developer to support VST and AU, rather Geniesoft's "Overture" has that distinction and is much easier to use than Sibelius.Sibelius has so many "secret handshakes" to use that it reminds me of computer game built around a hunt for treasure. One should actually read the manual again and again, just to do fairly simple tasks, which should not be. I believe this difficulty was what the original reviewer was referring to.
Wednesday, June 13 2007 @ 04:51 PM PDT
Secret handshakes - sonicraft
Well said. I have on many occasions been unable to find instructions for a function in the documentation. The tech support turnaround is about 48 hours (not bad). And there is a good user forum.Very often, the procedure is some kind of hoop-jump that noone could ever have figured out on their own.
Sibelius is a little easier than Finale. But not much.
Saturday, March 08 2008 @ 11:52 AM PST
Many nice features, not as friendly as it claims, needs work - stephg_113
I have used Finale (up to Finale 2008) for many years. However, I switched to Sibelius after I was exposed to it at university. No matter, what the others have commented, I have found Sibelius to be so much easier to use than Finale. But the main positive of Sibelius is I am able to enter notation data so much quicker than Finale. I find the shortcuts for entering rhythms and notes much more logical and easier to remember. So, for workflow I believe Sibelius tops Finale. However, I don't use either Sibelius or Finale to play back a finished composition. Instead I will use Digital Audio Workstation like Logic Pro to create an audio version of a composition. I my opinion both Sibelius and Finale are first and foremost designed to be notation software and not a DAW where you can create good sounding audio version from the virtual instruments included with the programs. The included DAW functions of both notation softwares functions are more gimmicky than useful.Thursday, October 29 2009 @ 08:14 PM PDT
Many nice features, friendly... - website_enquiry0201
Responding to Sonicraft's post:Most of what you are after has been around since version 4 of Sibelius.
>>I chose a swing piece in 6/4 which I wanted to playback in 6. Sibelius insists on forcing a dotted-half to be a beat. There was no way to change this,
You can change the beam groupings of the bar by using Reset Beam Groups, if that is what you are after. Or, you can specify the beam groupings that make up a beat when you input your time signature.
>Sibelius allows you to have straight-eighths with "swung" playback, but it doesn't let you input "swung" notes without adding a step to unswing them.
You can control this in the Flexitime options. You can specify that you want to divide the beat equally into two parts, so your triple feel input goes in as two 8ths, for instance.
>My most greatest wish for a future (UB) version of Sibelius is to have a user-defined shortcut/commands list.
This is already available in the Preferences>menus and shortcuts.
>It is possible that Sibelius could evolve into a more clear and usable system. The problem is that in order for the software to become that, current users would have to let go of the complicated procedures they've learned and replace them with simpler more intuitive ones.
Interesting you use this to describe Sibelius. I would use the word "complicated procedures" to describe the general user experience with Finale.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that with version 5, Sibelius appears to be the first notation program to bring AU and VST plugin support to the user, which is long overdue from any notation app.
And, it looks like they've added a scrolling view / continuous view / galley view in v5, which should make entry and editing much easier for those who are used to working in a sequencing environment.
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Wednesday, June 13 2007 @ 03:28 PM PDT