So, I decided it was time to update the virus defs. Signed on. The site suggested I "upgrade" to NIS 3.0, which now I think I actually had done years ago, but what the hell, I spent the 40 bucks to "upgrade." I now see, however, that the suite doesn't work with any new version of OSX. Further, my NAV def subscription wasn't renewed anyway, and STILL says it's expired. I can't get to support on the website without their page crashing. I'm astonished they can stay in business. I long since abandoned them on my Windows boxes, and now I plan to just tell myself that I spent 40 bucks smartening myself up on the Mac side. As soon as I post this, I will rid my computer and my life of this fraudulent company's garbage once and for all, and be glad it only cost me 40 clams and not my whole life's worth of data.