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ExtremeZ-IP

ExtremeZ-IP

Adds AppleShare to Windows file servers.

Version:  6.0.3

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very good product...if you have very deep pockets...

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Contributed by: poolmouse Monday, July 03 2006 @ 10:23 PM PDT

Product Platform: MacOSX

Used Product For: Over One Year

Recommend Product: NO

...extremez-ip is simply too expensive, as others pointed out. before osx server bagan to mature (both software and hardware), extremez-ip was an essential service enhancement. it gives you afp version 3.x that supports all the advanced features of osx (auto reconnect, unicode, long filenames, etc.).

tiger server includes extended attributes and access control lists...two things that kept a lot of large companies from moving over to osx server. and as i recently found out, there's also a failover function so you can point one xserver to another and tell it to failover if the first one fails. that opened the door in a lot of large companies.

sorry group logic...you sell an excellent product, but it's way overpriced. oh, and please stop telling people that "in our test osx server fails miserably"...that's such complete nonesense. ;) stick to what you guys do best - selling an excellent product. don't water down your product with unsubstantiated attacks on apple products...seasoned admins, consultants and enterprize engineers know better.

don

don montalvo, nyc
curmudgeon at large   

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very good product...if you have very deep pockets... - Geordie Korper

Thanks for you review of ExtremeZ-IP. I did want to clarify one thing; when you quote us as saying "in our test osx server fails miserably", that is not a statement that stands on its own. It is true that Mac OS X Server does not perform very well in the stress test that we use to qualify ExtremeZ-IP, but that does not mean that Mac OS X Server will not meet *your* needs.

Our nightly stress tests simulate 1000+ simultaneous users per server. At any one time 50 of those clients are actively copying files, locking files, doing searches, etc. (the other clients are logged in but idle). In addition there are a number of cross platform based workflows going on where Windows clients and Mac clients copy files to each other by way of the server. That is a much higher load than many people will ever put on their servers. We have to test to that level because, many of our customers do support several thousand Mac users with several thousand Windows clients simultaneously. Using a multi-node cluster, ExtremeZ-IP can support that and Mac OS X Server can't. For those people a solution like ExtremeZ-IP is more attractive because it actually costs them less per user.

Don't get me wrong an Xserve is a very good solution for the product niche it fills. Not everybody's needs fit into that niche though.

Geordie Korper
ExtremeZ-IP Support Lead

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Monday, March 05 2007 @ 01:14 PM PST


very good product...if you have very deep pockets... - kevin.pinel

Interesting comment...

We are a small area within a corporate environment and find that your tests are very similar to our actual day-to-day environment. However, we don't experience the problems that you have described. Our Windows servers with Apple sharing enabled handle over 1000 clients perfectly. More so, some of our XServers host Oracle web applications either with the database on the server and/or via ODBC and they don't miss a beat with over 100,000 hits a day.

Even with your claims and the support of your users, I can't justify the price tag for half a dozen Macs including mine. I dare say that your product would give me more flexibility than what we currently have set up but I would still have to say I'll think about it and not bother to follow up.

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