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TabletMagic

Open source driver for discontinued Wacom serial tablets.

Version:  2.0b17d2

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ADB Support Effort Abandoned?

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Contributed by: SteveRB511 Friday, June 09 2006 @ 08:01 AM PDT

Product Platform: MacOSX

Used Product For: Have Not Tried

It appears from both VersionTracker and the developer web site that ADB support has gone from "future version" to "not supported." Does this mean that the intent to develop an ADB version has been given up on?   

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ADB Support Effort Abandoned? - slurslee

Yes, ADB support has been abandoned. ADB tablets cannot be supported in Mac OS X due to issues beyond our control.

- Scott Lahteine

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Friday, June 09 2006 @ 10:30 AM PDT


ADB Support Effort Abandoned? - Fire_Angel

The wording isn't really very accurate here. ADB devices can be supported under OS X because I am using one to type this, and it's never given a problem. It is harder than it should be, and finding documentation is like finding a dodo's egg, but it isn't impossible. It would be better to say that the work is too hard and/or time consuming along with oher committments the programmer has.

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Saturday, June 10 2006 @ 02:30 AM PDT


ADB Support Effort Abandoned? - Bytewraith

You're typing on an ADB device? Really? Does System Profiler show an ADB bus and device? My guess is you're not, at least as far as the system is concerned. My guess is you'll find your keyboard listed under USB, because to the system that's what's connected.

The iMate has some elegant firmware that makes ADB mice and keyboard appear as USB mice and keyboards. You can even plug an iMate into a Windows machine and use an ADB keyboard on it, since the machine will see a USB keyboard.

Except for keyboards and mice the iMate is not capable of handling polled data transfers (normal ADB activity). It can only handle specific requests, which is enough to get security keys working, but not I/O devices in general.

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Wednesday, June 21 2006 @ 02:45 PM PDT


ADB Support Effort Abandoned? - Fire_Angel

No, it's an ADB device, and it doesn't show up as a USB device. In fact in the system profiler it doesn't show up at all, only its driver in the extensions list.

The Blue-and-White G3 (which is what I am using) was the last Apple tower system to have an ADB port, though it shipped with a USB keyboard and mouse. I use an older Apple Design II keyboard because it is a lot better than any of the current crop of Apple keyboards. It works fine and so do old Apple ADB mice, though I use a Logitech USB mouse for the extra buttons and the scrollwheel.

Since my original comment I have discovered that Apple never implemented proper drivers for high-rate ADB devices under OS-X, only keyboards, mice and a few small control devices. This means that in order to get ADB tablets working the author of TabletMagic would almost certainly have to write his own ADB driver from scratch, which is a lot of extra work, quite aside from the fact that getting the documentation would be near impossible. Apple never encouraged people to write ADB drivers, they expected everyone to use theirs, to save problems with the various ADB chipset revisions. So yes, if you blame anyone blame Apple, not Wacom or ThinkyHead.

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Thursday, July 13 2006 @ 04:25 PM PDT


ADB Support Effort Abandoned? - Fire_Angel

No, it's an ADB device, and it doesn't show up as a USB device. In fact in the system profiler it doesn't show up at all, only its driver in the extensions list.

The Blue-and-White G3 (which is what I am using) was the last Apple tower system to have an ADB port, though it shipped with a USB keyboard and mouse. I use an older Apple Design II keyboard because it is a lot better than any of the current crop of Apple keyboards. It works fine and so do old Apple ADB mice, though I use a Logitech USB mouse for the extra buttons and the scrollwheel.

Since my original comment I have discovered that Apple never implemented proper drivers for high-rate ADB devices under OS-X, only keyboards, mice and a few small control devices. This means that in order to get ADB tablets working the author of TabletMagic would almost certainly have to write his own ADB driver from scratch, which is a lot of extra work, quite aside from the fact that getting the documentation would be near impossible. Apple never encouraged people to write ADB drivers, they expected everyone to use theirs, to save problems with the various ADB chipset revisions. So yes, if you blame anyone blame Apple, not Wacom or ThinkyHead.

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Thursday, July 13 2006 @ 04:30 PM PDT


ADB Support Effort Abandoned? - Fire_Angel

No, it's an ADB device, and it doesn't show up as a USB device. In fact in the system profiler it doesn't show up at all, only its driver in the extensions list.

The Blue-and-White G3 (which is what I am using) was the last Apple tower system to have an ADB port, though it shipped with a USB keyboard and mouse. I use an older Apple Design II keyboard because it is a lot better than any of the current crop of Apple keyboards. It works fine and so do old Apple ADB mice, though I use a Logitech USB mouse for the extra buttons and the scrollwheel.

Since my original comment I have discovered that Apple never implemented proper drivers for high-rate ADB devices under OS-X, only keyboards, mice and a few small control devices. This means that in order to get ADB tablets working the author of TabletMagic would almost certainly have to write his own ADB driver from scratch, which is a lot of extra work, quite aside from the fact that getting the documentation would be near impossible. Apple never encouraged people to write ADB drivers, they expected everyone to use theirs, to save problems with the various ADB chipset revisions. So yes, if you blame anyone blame Apple, not Wacom or ThinkyHead.

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Thursday, July 13 2006 @ 04:31 PM PDT


ADB Support Effort Abandoned? - Fire_Angel

No, it's an ADB device, and it doesn't show up as a USB device. In fact in the system profiler it doesn't show up at all, only its driver in the extensions list.

The Blue-and-White G3 (which is what I am using) was the last Apple tower system to have an ADB port, though it shipped with a USB keyboard and mouse. I use an older Apple Design II keyboard because it is a lot better than any of the current crop of Apple keyboards. It works fine and so do old Apple ADB mice, though I use a Logitech USB mouse for the extra buttons and the scrollwheel.

Since my original comment I have discovered that Apple never implemented proper drivers for high-rate ADB devices under OS-X, only keyboards, mice and a few small control devices. This means that in order to get ADB tablets working the author of TabletMagic would almost certainly have to write his own ADB driver from scratch, which is a lot of extra work, quite aside from the fact that getting the documentation would be near impossible. Apple never encouraged people to write ADB drivers, they expected everyone to use theirs, to save problems with the various ADB chipset revisions. So yes, if you blame anyone blame Apple, not Wacom or ThinkyHead.

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Thursday, July 13 2006 @ 04:33 PM PDT


ADB Support Effort Abandoned? - Fire_Angel

No, my keyboard is an ADB device, and it doesn't show up as a USB device. In fact in the system profiler it doesn't show up at all, only its driver in the extensions list.

The Blue-and-White G3 (which is what I am using) was the last Apple tower system to have an ADB port, though it shipped with a USB keyboard and mouse. I use an older Apple Design II keyboard because it is a lot better than any of the current crop of Apple keyboards. It works fine and so do old Apple ADB mice, though I use a Logitech USB mouse for the extra buttons and the scrollwheel.

Since my original comment I have discovered that Apple never implemented proper drivers for high-rate ADB devices under OS-X, only keyboards, mice and a few small control devices. This means that in order to get ADB tablets working the author of TabletMagic would almost certainly have to write his own ADB driver from scratch, which is a lot of extra work, quite aside from the fact that getting the documentation would be near impossible. Apple never encouraged people to write ADB drivers, they expected everyone to use theirs, to save problems with the various ADB chipset revisions. So yes, if you blame anyone blame Apple, not Wacom or ThinkyHead.

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Thursday, July 13 2006 @ 04:38 PM PDT


ADB Support Effort Abandoned? - Fire_Angel

Sorry about the multiple posts, not sure if it was a bug in my browser or a bug in the Version Tracker php code, but one or the other.

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Thursday, July 13 2006 @ 04:44 PM PDT