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Apple iWork 09

Productivity suite: Pages, Keynote, Numbers

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iWork - especially Pages. Mac philosophy

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Contributed by: John Wright de Paris Thursday, January 19 2006 @ 06:39 AM PST

Product Platform: MacOSX

Used Product For: 6-12 months

Hello
What are you guys moaning about? Have you seen the price of Office. Even the update will set you back more than 300$, so I can understand Mac not bothering with one for iWork. Keynote alone is worth the price.
Having said that, Pages is another matter. I won’t be bothering with the new version just yet, unless that is Apple deals with a long-standing general problem of .doc and, more important .rtf compatibility for people with older PCs. You export an Apple document (and this goes for Pages, Appleworks and TextEdit) in one of these formats, send it as an attachment and people can't open it. The only way I’ve found is to copy/paste a text into an old version of Word or else directly into Mail (which shows that the problem has been solved at least here) -or make a pdf.

A thing that really irritates me is Mac's tendency of late, certainly due to commercial pressure, to fall into the Microsoft Office trap of “the boy scout taking the old lady over the road - whether she wants to cross or not!” - in other words there are more and more blobs and gadgets imposed from Day One of using an app. So when you could start doing something useful, you have to waste time going through hidden menus and sub-menus trying to find how to neutralise what are in fact preferences liberally sprinkled throughout - and you have to know what they are called in other words learn obscure jargon. The actuel Preferences window in Pages is very sparse, so you can't do much with that.
Well, as the French say, “Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire compliqué?” This is why I can't stand things like iPhoto. It’s all instant gratification, isn’t it? How much simpler to import photos using image transfer (or whatever it’s called in English: I have a French system), send them into Photoshop, label them 'roperly and then do the organising in Finder. It may take a bit longer, but at least I know where things are and the thumbnails are usually quite adequate for identification.
Pages is a prime example of what I am talking about this needless complication masquerading as services. I've come to use it quite a lot, because I find it stable, but what a pain it is looking for functions in the Inspector or the fonts window. Also I don’t like Helvetica and still haven’t found out how to make a document open in Times. Personally I’m really not interested in making flattering “stunning documents” with their templates and always open with a clean page.
Would there not be a way to provide two user modes from the outset; a “simple document” to which one would add one’s own preferences in one’s own time one and a “gizmo mode” for passive users who like everything pre-masticated?

Had a look at Mellel yesterday. Nice sober interface: Phew! A breath of fresh airl. The general architecture seems similar to Pages, but I do like their idea of grouping their palettes together in one convenient block. I tailor-made it to my own needs in no time at all. So, perhaps rather than upgrade iWork, I’ll buy that. But there again, I have the .doc .rtf issue (an Apple one in my opinion).

The new Ragtime Beta looks very promising too.

  

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iWork - especially Pages. Mac philosophy - bezoar

Moaning, who’s moaning. I’m *censored*ing. Apple does this time and time again. You just get settled with iWork,Pages etc. And then along comes Y.A.U. They expect you to pay for it. Just like the OS sysyetm updates. I guess they need to make money but why on the backs of owners of a RECENT version of their app.
OK, that’s that. To the fellow who originally wrote this, there is a time honored App called MacLink Plus. It does what you claim iWork doesn’t. Granted one shouldn’t HAVE to buy an accessory App to do whhat iWork SHOULD do, but “das ist, wie es geht”.
By the way, what’s NEW about this version that would make one want to update anyway?? C’mon Apple, talk!

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Thursday, January 19 2006 @ 08:00 AM PST


Mac is the brand, Apple is the company - Weston Mason

The Macintosh (or Mac) is a brand of product that Apple produces. Mac make makeup products. Just FYI for those who are still confused.

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Thursday, January 19 2006 @ 09:27 AM PST


Mac is the brand, Apple is the company - John Wright de Paris

That's about as clear as mud..
Would you mind translating Y.A.U & FYI?

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Friday, January 20 2006 @ 09:12 AM PST


Mac is the brand, Apple is the company - epc

I assume it's Yet Another Upgrade. FYI stands for For Your Information.
By the way, I think I paid around $120 for Office, which includes Entourage, Excel, Word, and PowerPoint. Not bad for applications that I use almost every day. I have not paid for a single update.
On the other hand, iWork was around $50 for 2 buggy applications which I seldom use. Of the 2 programs, Keynote 2 is certainly a very nice application. Much better than the first version of Keynote. I did not get any upgrade pricing for my Keynote, and considering that iWork '06 consists of little more than what Pages and Keynote should have been from the start, I'm not upgrading.
Apple is very lucky to have such forgiving customers these days.
Mellel is indeed a great program, and even major upgrades have been free.
Finally, let's not forget that without Microsoft, Apple would not be what it is today. Excel was originally an application for the Mac, and recently Bill Gates invested a lot of money in Apple.

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Thursday, January 26 2006 @ 12:30 AM PST


Mac is the brand, Apple is the company - John Wright de Paris

Thanks for the translation. I'm not in on blog or business jargon. Anyway I must be thick, I still don't understand the explanation. What I do understand is that Apple is the parent company but I always thought that Macintosh was a development sector of Apple - turned mainstream development. Mac is more than a brand, it's an operating system integrated into its own exclusive tailor-made machines.
That's why I refer to "Mac philosophy".

Broadly agree about Gates. The problem is that Microsoft imposed a certain computer mindset worldwide. That's much improved over the last 5 years or so, but the mindset is still there. My brief forays into Windows have always been Hell.

Anyway I don't know if a Version Tracker thread is the place to hold this discussion.

Haven't found too many bugs in iWork. Pages could be much improved but it has never given any trouble which is why I use it, not because I think it's a great app. As I said, the .doc/.rtf compatibility issue seems to be a general one that Apple would do well to address. All word processors on the platform are affected by it, including Mellel.

You got a good deal for Office. As a London bus conducter once said to me when I was complaining about a fare rise "When were you paying that? — Before the war?"


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Thursday, January 26 2006 @ 03:36 AM PST


Mac is the brand, Apple is the company - epc

I paid almost when it came out. They had some coupons and student pricing. This is the last year I'll get any academic discounts. They sure help. :-)

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Saturday, February 04 2006 @ 01:10 AM PST


Mac is the brand, Apple is the company - John Wright de Paris

Thanks for the translation. I'm not in on blog or business jargon. Anyway I must be thick, I still don't understand the explanation. What I do understand is that Apple is the parent company but I always thought that Macintosh was a development sector of Apple - turned mainstream development. Mac is more than a brand, it's an operating system integrated into its own exclusive tailor-made machines.
That's why I refer to "Mac philosophy".

Broadly agree about Gates. The problem is that Microsoft imposed a certain computer mindset worldwide. That's much improved over the last 5 years or so, but the mindset is still there. My brief forays into Windows have always been Hell.

Anyway I don't know if a Version Tracker thread is the place to hold this discussion.

Haven't found too many bugs in iWork. Pages could be much improved but it has never given any trouble which is why I use it, not because I think it's a great app. As I said, the .doc/.rtf compatibility issue seems to be a general one that Apple would do well to address. All word processors on the platform are affected by it, including Mellel.

You got a good deal for Office. As a London bus conducter once said to me when I was complaining about a fare rise "When were you paying that? — Before the war?"


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Thursday, January 26 2006 @ 03:39 AM PST


iWork - especially Pages. Mac philosophy - saltedgreens

To open a document in Times:
Open a blank template document
Change the font to times
Go to 'File' and 'Save as Template' and save over blank template.

That should work.
You migh like to also tweak things like making the style 'free form' and eliminating hyphenations (in the inspector window).

Hope this helps.

Youur views align with mine. You state yourself well. Thanks.

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Thursday, January 19 2006 @ 10:50 PM PST


iWork - especially Pages. Mac philosophy - John Wright de Paris

Thanks very much.

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Friday, January 20 2006 @ 09:17 AM PST