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For those who think Entourage works "fine" with Exchange...

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Contributed by: RBanzai Thursday, May 20 2004 @ 09:10 AM PDT

Product Platform: MacOSX

Used Product For: Have Not Tried

Recommend Product: NO

It's a shame that people in a single user environment have no clue what a problem not having a true Exchange client is in the business world. Yes, if you only have to check your own email entourage is fine on an exchange server. Please do not confuse being able to collect your email with being a true Exchange client.
In a business environment Exchange is not used simply for email. It's a business tool for sharing information among hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands of users.
My company posts calendars of meetings scheduled for several conference rooms and a conference center in the public folders. entourage cannot access calendars in public folders. we cannot use the built in group scheduling and invitation function that is essential in a business environment.
departments that have to monitor shared email boxes cannot add those boxes to their primary account: entourage does not support this feature which has been in Outlook for at least five years.

do not fixate on the usefulness of products in a single user environment and then put down those of us that have deal-breaking problems because we need this to function as a business tool. i'm glad the product works for your very limited need but it is forcing me to replace macs with PCs. isn't that the ultimate in product failure for those of us that want to use macs in the workplace? it's terribly frustrating for me to have one damn program undermine my plans to keep my workplace primarily mac. those days are now over for me. :P   

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You're fired. - mondomax

Sorry Banzai but the Mac IS a single user machine--that's the niche, the market, the demo. That's me and I like this product because it helps me deal with folks like you who insist on installing proprietary MS infrastructure in the first place.

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Thursday, May 20 2004 @ 03:49 PM PDT


And you've got no idea what the original post was about. - adriann

Hey mondomax I think you completely missed the point here... (and NO the mac is not a single user OS... it has become a real multiuser environment since OSX... but you already new that and just wanted to be a smartguy)...

But that's not the issue... as far as I read it... Entourage doesn't let you collaborate with the full features of the Exchange server... ie: the sharing of calendars etc... this does not mean it's all happening on one machine... it means shared over an office network.

My wife's boss uses a Mac because he's a TV producer and choses to use a Mac... but the company only offers PC's to it's employees... if they want a Mac they use their own... anyway my wife manages her bosses email, appointments and address book on the Exchange server no problem since she's on a PC, but the boss has to run classic and use outlook to do the same thing... because there is no native OSX mail app that support all the exchange features.

And why post comments that are only designed to encite a flame war... there is nothing useful in anything you said.

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Thursday, May 20 2004 @ 09:02 PM PDT


Other Entourage/Exchange limitations - rossbarkman

Entourage also doesn't work with older versions of Exchange that don't support LDAP and WebDAV (or whatever open calendaring protocol the current Exchange uses). I'm still stuck with Classic Outlook for Exchange, because Entourage simply doesn't work in my corporate environment. I suspect that, even when the company upgrades to Exchange 2003 (or whatever the latest version is), there will still be features that only clients supporting the proprietary Exchange interface can access. Until the Windows version of Outlook supports only open-standard protocols, any open-standard client will be at a disadvantage, and that includes Entourage.

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Friday, May 21 2004 @ 01:54 AM PDT


For those who think Entourage works "fine" with Exchange... - fusion120

I have been around and around with my IT dept, the only way to get almost full functionality with Entourage and Exchange server 2003 is for IT to turn off most of exchange's security? I am stuck usinge the ever crashing Outlook 2001 in classic mode. I disagree with the single user comment. For most of us in the creative/printing/prepress/publishing world you have macs and pc on the same multi-network. BTW who kept Mac afloat during their rough years? Yeah the above mentioned industries, not the single users.

Example, Nike...guess what there Mac's are running to access corporate email and clendars... Outlook 2001 running in classic. I am convinece that Microsoft could add full Exchange functionality to Entourage...if the really wanted to. Unless someone can explain to me why a os9 app can accomplish something that can be coded into osx.

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Thursday, June 24 2004 @ 09:46 AM PDT


For those who think Entourage works "fine" with Exchange... - DuaneD

Stuck in the same boat here. My organization will not upgrade the exchange servers to 2003, and if they do, I'll bet there are still problems and shortcomings of Entourage.

This is just their way to try to keep Mac out of the corporate world.

Any basement hack could carbonize Outlook 2001 if they had access to the code. Microsoft could do it in a heartbeat —they CHOOSE not to.

I really wish companies would look elsewhere for their messaging/calendar software. The only way to get MS to listen is to kick them in the numbers.

WHY WON'T COMPANIES DO THAT? Why are so many companies married to MS?

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Friday, September 03 2004 @ 03:36 PM PDT


For those who think Entourage works "fine" with Exchange... - shorton_dotmac

Isn't the decision to make Entourage unfit as a business client a conscious decision by MS to prevent erosion of market share? Am I misreading overt tea leaves? Otherwise I find office a 3.5-4 star piece of software. Very useful for single users, very easy to use with windows.

However, how about this decision by MS. PowerPoint 2004 has REMOVED support for QuickTime transisitons, etc. Another control freak decision, protect your assets I guess. Sucks for the customer, though.

My 2 cents.

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Sunday, September 05 2004 @ 07:17 AM PDT