Mormons - jbaugh1

Mormonism is considered to be a cultic non-Christian religion among orthodox Christians. Just because "Jesus Christ" is in the official name of the LDS church, that doesn't make members "Christians". I could start my own religion and call it the "Mumbo Jumbo Church of Christ". "Christ", in my new church would refer to an entirely mythological entity very loosely based on the true person of Jesus who is described in the Bible. Would orthodox Christians have to consider members of my church to be fellow Christians? I am not "Mormon bashing". I am just expressing the views of conservative, historic, orthodox Christian teachings.
John from Utah

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Thursday, March 04 2004 @ 09:42 AM PST

Re: Mormons - captainstewart

          I am curious why you consider Mormonism to be a cult. What exactly about our teachings do you consider to be cultist and/or non-Christian? Perhaps you may be confused about the Mormon culture, rather than the actual teachings of the church. Let me explain:
          We believe that Jesus Christ came to earth to suffer for our sins and redeem us from the fall of Adam, that thereby mankind might return to live with our Father in heaven. We further believe that Christ lives today, and that the attonement and subsequent resurrection of Jesus Christ enabled all men to be resurrected into perfect bodies. We believe in a god of love, and a god of mercy; one who is no respecter of persons, and grants the same kindness and forgiveness to all who come unto him. We do not condemn other religions, and in fact, consider all religions to be worthwile for the uplifting and educating of all people. We believe that our church is the true church of Jesus Christ as he has restored it today, through the miracle of prophecy and revelation.
          The LDS church teaches the four basic principles of Christ's church: faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism, and laying on of hands to recieve the Holy Ghost. We believe in following the example set by Jesus as described in the bible: by being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and doing good to all men. We believe the Bible to be the word of God, and we believe the Book of Mormon to be a second witness of the truths contained in the bible. It is not a new bible, but a companion, testifying of the greatness of God, and that Jesus Christ is the savior of the world.
          Therefore, "Jesus Christ" is in the name of our church because of his role in our salvation, not just for show. What does the orthodox church teach about Christ, and how does that differ from the Mormon belief? I am greatly interested to know. And who are these so called "orthodox" Christian churches, since there seem to be so many divisions of Christianity?
          I had no intention of establishing a religious discussion in a software forum, but I felt that I needed to clarify the beliefs of the LDS church and perhaps reslove a few of the misconceptions that abound regarding the Mormon faith.

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Thursday, April 01 2004 @ 10:51 PM PST

Stop and think: - jandmdelli_gatti

ditto. Although everyone is entitled to their own opinion and views on virtually any subject... including religion, and although people are allowed to create contention and disagree, it doesn't seem very chistian or like Jesus.

For the most part (not trying to stereotype all mormons), mormons are the greatest followers of Christ you'll find. The LDS mormon church baptises in the name of Jesus, pays 10% tithing to build all the churches it uses and to feed the hungry and cloth the poor.

It has no paid church leaders. The organization is set up with a prophet (also acts as the president) and 12 apostles - how much closer can you get to the same organization that Jesus set up in ancient times?

The LDS church uses the King James version Old Testament, New Testament and has some other bibles too. One is a bible created by ancient american indian prophets called the Book of Mormon.

I've read it all the way through - the first half is a bunch of indian prophets living jewish traditions and preaching that Jesus will come to save them. The middle talks about Jesus and the signs in the sky, etc that he has been born and then that he died. Then the indians get a visit from the resurrected Jesus (he descends out of heaven and shows everyone nail marks in his hands and feet). He teaches them the new christian principles and then goes back to heaven. Then the last half of the book has more indian prophets preaching that Jesus really came. Then theres a huge indian armageddon and so the book was finished. If that doesn't preach that Jesus is real then I don't know what does.

The indian bible probably talks more about Jesus (same teachings though) than the Old and New testaments combined. Before you knock someone's religion, try studying it like I did. I have great respect for the Mormons (named after a prophet in the Book of Mormon).

And, even though I don't always understand the polygamy/no-polygamy thing or the no drinking ever thing, I respect the LDS church more than I respect any hating, snake-toungued, contentious church that claims to know all about Jesus and "who he really is".

When I see people just shoot off their mouths in ignorance, I shudder. People who try to stir up an argument aren't acting christian. If people would be more tolerant of others and their religions and less prone to talk out their butts, the devil would have one less way to drive people around. I appreciate what this mormon guy had to say. It's nice to hear that someone believes in being saved through Jesus.

Oh, and I'm probably going to download the program and check it out.

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Wednesday, April 26 2006 @ 08:49 PM PDT