Existing users, 
Cocktail
(Panther Edition) general purpose system modify/repair utility
Version: 3.7
Onyx
Feedback Type: Review
Contributed by: loshooligun Friday, October 17 2003 @ 09:48 AM PDT
Product Platform: MacOSX
Used Product For: Have Not Tried
Recommend Product: NO
Repeat after me: Onyx. Onyx is freeware. Cocktail isn't. Cocktail is a ripp-off. Charging money to use terminal commands. pfff
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All GUI is like that - Resonator
I wonder if that guy paid for his OS X. After all, isn't OS X really just charging to use Terminal commands? Why do we need the Finder at all, right?It's a free country (the one I live in, anyway). If someone wants to charge for their labor in putting a UI on terminal commands, you can use something else.
Friday, October 17 2003 @ 12:03 PM PDT
All GUI is like that - APGiuliano
We DO use something else, we use OnyX! LOL, LMAO, ROFL, ROFLMAO!Friday, October 17 2003 @ 02:03 PM PDT
All GUI is like that - Kugo
- After all, isn't OS X really just charging to use Terminal commands?I hope this is tongue in cheek and no more. On top of FreeBSD you have a lot of work with Cocoa and Carbon - 'Aqua'. The interface is better than KDE or Gnome, and you pay for it.
Just because it's free wouldn't mean it's free anyway. Free in this context refers to the source code being there for you to alter - not to the product costing nothing.
- Why do we need the Finder at all, right?
We don't need the Finder. Anyone dependent on that program is truly lame.
- It's a free country (the one I live in, anyway).
You're a classic, my friend. And FWIW, you're far from as free as you've deluded yourself into thinking.
But whatever: The C runtime library is a lot of stuff like this - it's 'convenience' work. It's stuff programmers could write (most good programmers can write anything) but the library saves them the time. Simple things like strcmp are a convenience and no more.
What I object to is selling supposedly esoteric information for a dollar. A lot of people, for example, would rather someone just told them how to tweak their MTU, instead of hiding the secret in an application. At the end of the day this program, while a convenience to some, can feel like blackmail to others.
Sunday, October 19 2003 @ 01:47 AM PDT
Onyx - Samwise
I've looked at Onyx and find it's interface confusing and uninformative. Cocktail's interface is much clearer and easier to use which it makes it worth the money to me. The same applies to using other free "one trick pony" utilties which may be free but don't do it all on one app, or running commands from the Terminal.If you don't feel it's worth it, don't pay for it. No one's forcing you to. But saying it's a "rip-off" is decidedly unfair.
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Friday, October 17 2003 @ 10:12 AM PDT