There is upgrade pricing and rebate (good till 12/31/03) info on the Apple page. Funny, about that Enron stuff there Gryphon2. I bet Enron never even considered using Quickbooks..it is PIA to delete a client that stiffs you...I tried. I switched to QBPro 2002 for PC. It sucks but it does what i need... As for Version Tracker...I doubt they are changing marketing and are informing us that its a Pre-Order item. I think thats quite nice of VT to provide that rather than a dead link.