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Moneydance

Moneydance - 2008r2

personal finance manager

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Current Version: 2008r2
Release Date: 2008-08-07
License: Commercial
Downloads (this version): 1,811
Downloads (all versions): 34,724
Price: $39.99

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Moneydance ReviewNot for users with complex needs - Version: 2008, 3/29/2008 03:00PM PST

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doctor-t
Reviewer background: I have used Quicken for 19 years on a complex mix of accounts including stock and fund portfolios, loans, and mortgages.

Moneydance has two major plusses: 1. It can communicate with many banks, brokerages, and credit card companies and 2. It isn't Quicken. These factors are why I am evaluating Moneydance. Quicken has shortchanged Macintosh users for years, and the situation worsened in recent years despite having the CEO of Intuit on Apple's Board of Directors. So, here is my assessment of Moneydance after numerous hours of use.

Data Import: Moneydance did very well with simple accounts. However, on more complex accounts there were many different types of failures. On one brokerage account, Moneydance failed to import over two years of data. On other brokerage accounts, the first few entries were missing. The most annoying errors involved transfers between accounts. For example, my pay is direct deposited into my checking account, but only after some of my pay goes into a retirement account. This pay deposit would be handled in Quicken by assigning multiple categories (salary, FICA, Medicare, retirement, etc.) with the retirement category being a transfer. Moneydance captured each direct deposit but added an additional separate entry for the transfer resulting in a double deduction. This separate entry was unreconciled (easy to find because of the missing check mark), but could not be deleted! There is no good way to fix this problem. Putting a zero dollar amount in the extra transaction also put a zero dollar amount in the linked retirement account. Zeroing the retirement transfer in the original entry requires another entry to correct the balance. This appears to be the best solution, but it is very time consuming.

(An aside on data import: Not long ago, due to a Quicken problem, I had to export all accounts, create a new account, and import everything back. It worked perfectly. Therefore, I am confident that the problems I had with Moneydance import were due to Moneydance and not to a corrupt data file.)

Documentation: I am one of those unusual persons who actually reads manuals. That is especially true for important and complex programs like ones used to manage all of my money and assets. Moneydance has no printed manual or PDF manual. It has a mediocre HTML-based guide on its web site. The first page contains links to a few dozen topics. Most of the topic pages are text only. A few topic pages contain screen captures. The main support for Moneydance is within its user forum. That may be acceptable for free, open source software or for inexpensive shareware, but it is unacceptable for a commercial product.

Interface/Ease-of-Use: Even after filtering my accounts, I find Moneydance's home window too busy. The Investment Accounts is the worst with its display of balances and individual share totals on the right side. I dislike not being able to remove, reposition, or truncate some of the window items. I would prefer a single screen of selected data, not a scrolling window containing data I don't need to see.

Another quirk is the Edit menu's lack of context sensitivity. For example, when working in a bank account, if I select an entire transaction and choose cut or copy, nothing happens. Unusable menu items should be grayed-out and unselectable. I also find it strange that the Edit menu does not contain delete, but that both delete and forward delete keys can be used to delete an entry. Some account actions, such as print register or print check can only be triggered from the pop-up menus at the top of the window. There are no print commands in the File menu. These interface quirks are typical of applications written by non-Macintosh oriented programmers.

Entering transactions is straightforward. Date fields have pop-up calendars. Transaction type, description, category, and tag fields have pop-up menus with choices from all previous entries. Right-clicking anywhere on a selected transaction displays a contextual menu with useful choices (most of which are not available any other way, another violation of Apple interface recommendations). Setting up securities is straightforward but bothersome. Moneydance offers no assistance at finding the ID, official name, ticker symbol, etc. You will need to find a web site that offers this information.

I did not assess the reminders feature.

Graphs and Reports: Moneydance offers a good selection of graphs and reports. The graphs are resizable, and the fonts and font sizes can be changed. However, little else is customizable. You cannot change axis scales, number or date formats, line or point colors, point shape, etc. The graphs cannot be exported in any format. Graphs can be saved in an undisclosed format (no .abc extensions is added). Investigation showed that the file actually is a PNG file, so you cannot edit individual components of the saved graph. Reports are even more restrictive: you cannot adjust anything except window size and column widths. Reports can be exported by clicking the Save button, a completely non-intuitive approach. Also, you have to fill in a file path name field before clicking OK, otherwise you get a gibberish-containing error message: "Error saving report: java.io.FileNotFoundException: (No such file or directory)." This looks like a holdover from Windows version 2. The Moneydance programmers again used their own interface instead of tapping into Apple's interface elements.

Moneydance allows export of the entire root account but not individual accounts. All you can choose is the date range for export. This is a major nuisance if you need to share account data with another application.

Summary: Moneydance, despite being around for ten years, has many rough edges. Poor data import makes it difficult to switch to Moneydance from Quicken or other competitors. The non-Macintosh interface adds to the learning curve, as does the lack of a good manual. For me, the only advantage of Moneydance is that it connects to almost every financial institution I use (whereas Quicken connects to none). At this time, the disadvantages of Moneydance outweigh that advantage.
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Moneydance Troubleshooting ReportNot Working2 - Version: 2008, 3/29/2008 08:19AM PST

peterpica
I rebuilt permissions, ran Disk Warrior, duped prefs, etc. Still will not launch properly without quitting several times, then -- maybe -- working properly. WIll work for one session, then after quitting, fail to launch again and again, etc.

I restored from a TimeMachine backup (version of 03/24/08) and it's working fine again.
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Moneydance Troubleshooting ReportNo longer works - Version: 2008, 3/29/2008 07:38AM PST

peterpica
Did anything change between this release and the one of 03/24/08?

Reason I ask is because it will no longer launch for me consistently. I have to relaunch 2-3 times before it will work without quitting and reporting a problem.

????

I'm going to try to go back to the previous version which worked flawlessly.
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Moneydance ReviewMoneyDance 2008 - Version: 2008, 3/28/2008 02:07PM PST

peshealy
I have been using MoneyDance for about 5 years. It gets better with each release.
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Moneydance CommentaryGreat Finance Product for Linux!! - Version: 2008, 3/28/2008 09:14AM PST

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bmarsh3
Been using MoneyDance for over two years and the program just keeps getting better. I download transactions from my Credit Union into the program to keep things up to date. Support from the vendor is great too!
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Moneydance ReviewBest Money Manager for Mac - Version: 2008b602, 3/4/2008 01:07AM PST

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RAlfieri
Like so many others, I’ve tried all of the personal finance applications for the Mac. Moneydance 2008 won me over. I’m finally rid of that nightmare Quicken Mac. Moneydance is fast, easy and does a much better job of matching and not duplicating imported transactions.

The interface in 2008 is better than 2007 and improving daily. Like with all applications, there are some quirks, but the developer is working diligently to incorporate user feedback.

Being a Java application, it also runs on all the major OS platforms! Now that’s something no other vendor can say.

Moneydance rocks!
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Moneydance CommentaryMoneydance / credit card functionality lacking - Version: 2007, 5/7/2007 09:13PM PST

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maser65
If you use credit cards with foreign currency transactions then look elsewhere... Moneydance has open support issues that are still not resolved in this area for over a year. Very disappointing - even if in other areas they have made improvements.
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Moneydance ReviewOh Canada!.... - Version: 2007, 5/3/2007 10:41AM PST

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mwilke
I really like MoneyDance and would buy it instead of Quicken. Problem is, Canadian banks aren't supported.

I'd recommend supporting the major banks for starters: CIBC, RBC, Scotia, ING, and BMO, and then banks like ATB. I won't rate it as a result of this ommision and my lack of real experience with it except for my attraction to the price.
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Moneydance Troubleshooting ReportInterface bug in Mac Version - Version: 2007, 1/26/2007 02:02PM PST

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Strider72
The new 2007 release has a rather serious (but easily worked-around) bug. In several screens, interface elements are distorted or entirely missing, making those screens unuseable. The workaround is to go into the preferences and change the "Look and Feel" setting to something _other_ than "Mac OS X". (I recommend setting it to "Metal".)

The only problem there is that the Preferences screen is one of those that is messed up, so changing the setting is a bit tricky.... The pulldown menu you want is there, but invisible until you click on it. Click around the lower half of the screen and you will reveal several popup menus. The one you want is about 1/4 of the way from the bottom of the preferences screen.

Good luck. Beyond this hopefully-soon-fixed bug, the programs works well.
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Moneydance ReviewWOW! What a great upgrade! - Version: 2007, 1/19/2007 07:15PM PST

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8wheels
So many things are addressed with this upgrade. I still can't believe it's Java.
I haven't been so excited about an upgrade in a long time.

Hat's off!

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