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Most worthless mail client ever used 
- Version: 1.1.1, 8/5/2009 01:08PM PST
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techess
Interesting, but you lose feature/function over other e-mail solutions - Version: 1.0.5, 5/18/2008 06:03PM PST
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RAlfieri
Comments about Outspring Mail
1) Importing works well.
a) Importing does not import passwords for accounts
b) GMail accounts do not get the right login information
ie. instead of user.name@gmail.com it just uses user.name
2) Signatures are NOT imported. They are created automatically with user name and email address.
3) No rules engine, although it might be intended that Auto-Filing supercede a rules engine, I would still prefer being able to set specific actions.
4) Importing Apple Mail into new Inboxes received an error -9990. They could not be displayed.
5) Importing mail loses attributes such as colored labels, flags, etc.
6) Demo version lasts 16 days. Every time you start up you have to enter your name and click Demo button.
7) Updating Messages (Getting Mail) started to run without stopping. Had to kill the process.
8) Will not recognize LOCALHOST as a valid server address if you are using an email proxy or spam filter such as Purify.
Usability lags behind Apple Mail. Has potential, but definitely no competition for Apple Mail, Entourage or Thunderbird. Pricey.
1) Importing works well.
a) Importing does not import passwords for accounts
b) GMail accounts do not get the right login information
ie. instead of user.name@gmail.com it just uses user.name
2) Signatures are NOT imported. They are created automatically with user name and email address.
3) No rules engine, although it might be intended that Auto-Filing supercede a rules engine, I would still prefer being able to set specific actions.
4) Importing Apple Mail into new Inboxes received an error -9990. They could not be displayed.
5) Importing mail loses attributes such as colored labels, flags, etc.
6) Demo version lasts 16 days. Every time you start up you have to enter your name and click Demo button.
7) Updating Messages (Getting Mail) started to run without stopping. Had to kill the process.
8) Will not recognize LOCALHOST as a valid server address if you are using an email proxy or spam filter such as Purify.
Usability lags behind Apple Mail. Has potential, but definitely no competition for Apple Mail, Entourage or Thunderbird. Pricey.
Nope - Version: 1.0.4, 5/5/2008 06:29PM PST
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sherman1
Unlike the previous poster, I would not hesitate to pay good money for a quality, high-powered email client. But Outspring is not it.
So this version seems more stable. They added signatures. But it's still missing WAY too many features to be considered a power application, and that's the only way to compete in this market. No filters/rules. No smart mailboxes. And, most amazing to me: no menu item to get email! There are menu items for replying, forwarding, deleting, delaying, but not for checking my email? I have to click and icon? Am I missing something here?
So this version seems more stable. They added signatures. But it's still missing WAY too many features to be considered a power application, and that's the only way to compete in this market. No filters/rules. No smart mailboxes. And, most amazing to me: no menu item to get email! There are menu items for replying, forwarding, deleting, delaying, but not for checking my email? I have to click and icon? Am I missing something here?
What?! Did you say $59 ?? - Version: 1.0.2, 4/13/2008 09:39AM PST
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iGreg
Uhhh, the title of this posting says it all.
questions - Version: 1.0.2, 4/8/2008 11:01PM PST
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humhum
In contrast to the previous post, I do believe there is room for a new email client - there are problems with the existing ones.
Mail is slow and still loses email on occasion. PowerMail is still the fastest among them, but does not really support IMAP (it crashes, even after all these years) and does not support Unicode. PowerMail is not actively developed; it is only updated for new versions of the OS.
Outspring mail has a promising interface, but what bothers me is the amount of RAM it takes (550Mb real memory), and the percentage of CPU (about 10% without running in the foreground).
The search facility is underdeveloped too in comparison to PowerMail.
Still, I will monitor the development here - I still have hopes for a good client, and am willing to pay for one.
Mail is slow and still loses email on occasion. PowerMail is still the fastest among them, but does not really support IMAP (it crashes, even after all these years) and does not support Unicode. PowerMail is not actively developed; it is only updated for new versions of the OS.
Outspring mail has a promising interface, but what bothers me is the amount of RAM it takes (550Mb real memory), and the percentage of CPU (about 10% without running in the foreground).
The search facility is underdeveloped too in comparison to PowerMail.
Still, I will monitor the development here - I still have hopes for a good client, and am willing to pay for one.
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- questions
Very promising, but not quite "there" yet... - Version: 1.0.2, 4/7/2008 08:57AM PST
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Obee Juan
I gave Outspring Mail a brief tryout here and it certainly holds a lot of promise. I love the layout and the general UI look. Initially I thought the toolbar icons were a little... plain... but after a short while that ceased to bother me. In fact... as they are, they are wholly functional and not distracting.
The program doesn't seem to have the option to prefer text email over html email. One reason I like and stick with Mailsmith is because it can ignore HTML tags and present HTML mail like plain text, while still offering the option to view as HTML if I desire. I like this because, let's face it, some people have absolutely painful ideas of how to format their text in different colors and fonts!
While I must say I like the way Outspring formats quoted text (with the oversized quote marks and "boxing in" the quoted text), unfortunately this only shows on my side. When reviewing quoted text sent by Outspring in another client, there is no obvious way to see that the text has been quoted, aside from the one line that says "So and so said...". IMO, this is a HUGE no-no. I think it's a disservice to my recipients to be less than clear what the quoted text is, and what "level" it is. Outspring should consider using the standard >> quote indicators, and maybe convert them to how they display it now just for users of their own client.
I'm also VERY annoyed at the self-serving spam that Outspring adds to the bottom of every outgoing mail. That must... ABSOLUTELY MUST GO!
The program seems to have a few bugs that need to be worked out before it's ready for prime-time. It crashed on me twice unexpectedly. While replying to an email (to myself), the status box never went away... stating that it was "copying" the email (presumably to my Sent Items). In the meanwhile, the reply showed up in my Inbox so I cancelled the outgoing status box since it clearly did go through, and as it turns out, there was a copy in my Sent items also.
Overall, while I must again say that I absolutely LOVE the UI of this app (possibly one of the best!), it still seems a bit buggy to be ready for regular use. Those, as well as the other issues with quoted text and lack of "plain text" support really need to be addressed before I for one can seriously consider it as a replacement for Mailsmith. I didn't take the opportunity to try out the "Brain", but offhand it looks like it would prove to be very useful.
The program doesn't seem to have the option to prefer text email over html email. One reason I like and stick with Mailsmith is because it can ignore HTML tags and present HTML mail like plain text, while still offering the option to view as HTML if I desire. I like this because, let's face it, some people have absolutely painful ideas of how to format their text in different colors and fonts!
While I must say I like the way Outspring formats quoted text (with the oversized quote marks and "boxing in" the quoted text), unfortunately this only shows on my side. When reviewing quoted text sent by Outspring in another client, there is no obvious way to see that the text has been quoted, aside from the one line that says "So and so said...". IMO, this is a HUGE no-no. I think it's a disservice to my recipients to be less than clear what the quoted text is, and what "level" it is. Outspring should consider using the standard >> quote indicators, and maybe convert them to how they display it now just for users of their own client.
I'm also VERY annoyed at the self-serving spam that Outspring adds to the bottom of every outgoing mail. That must... ABSOLUTELY MUST GO!
The program seems to have a few bugs that need to be worked out before it's ready for prime-time. It crashed on me twice unexpectedly. While replying to an email (to myself), the status box never went away... stating that it was "copying" the email (presumably to my Sent Items). In the meanwhile, the reply showed up in my Inbox so I cancelled the outgoing status box since it clearly did go through, and as it turns out, there was a copy in my Sent items also.
Overall, while I must again say that I absolutely LOVE the UI of this app (possibly one of the best!), it still seems a bit buggy to be ready for regular use. Those, as well as the other issues with quoted text and lack of "plain text" support really need to be addressed before I for one can seriously consider it as a replacement for Mailsmith. I didn't take the opportunity to try out the "Brain", but offhand it looks like it would prove to be very useful.
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Very promising, but not quite "there" yet... - Version: 1.0.2, 4/7/2008 08:57AM PST
Obee Juan
I gave Outspring Mail a brief tryout here and it certainly holds a lot of promise. I love the layout and the general UI look. Initially I thought the toolbar icons were a little... plain... but after a short while that ceased to bother me. In fact... as they are, they are wholly functional and not distracting.
The program doesn't seem to have the option to prefer text email over html email. One reason I like and stick with Mailsmith is because it can ignore HTML tags and present HTML mail like plain text, while still offering the option to view as HTML if I desire. I like this because, let's face it, some people have absolutely painful ideas of how to format their text in different colors and fonts!
While I must say I like the way Outspring formats quoted text (with the oversized quote marks and "boxing in" the quoted text), unfortunately this only shows on my side. When reviewing quoted text sent by Outspring in another client, there is no obvious way to see that the text has been quoted, aside from the one line that says "So and so said...". IMO, this is a HUGE no-no. I think it's a disservice to my recipients to be less than clear what the quoted text is, and what "level" it is. Outspring should consider using the standard >> quote indicators, and maybe convert them to how they display it now just for users of their own client.
I'm also VERY annoyed at the self-serving spam that Outspring adds to the bottom of every outgoing mail. That must... ABSOLUTELY MUST GO!
The program seems to have a few bugs that need to be worked out before it's ready for prime-time. It crashed on me twice unexpectedly. While replying to an email (to myself), the status box never went away... stating that it was "copying" the email (presumably to my Sent Items). In the meanwhile, the reply showed up in my Inbox so I cancelled the outgoing status box since it clearly did go through, and as it turns out, there was a copy in my Sent items also.
Overall, while I must again say that I absolutely LOVE the UI of this app (possibly one of the best!), it still seems a bit buggy to be ready for regular use. Those, as well as the other issues with quoted text and lack of "plain text" support really need to be addressed before I for one can seriously consider it as a replacement for Mailsmith. I didn't take the opportunity to try out the "Brain", but offhand it looks like it would prove to be very useful.
The program doesn't seem to have the option to prefer text email over html email. One reason I like and stick with Mailsmith is because it can ignore HTML tags and present HTML mail like plain text, while still offering the option to view as HTML if I desire. I like this because, let's face it, some people have absolutely painful ideas of how to format their text in different colors and fonts!
While I must say I like the way Outspring formats quoted text (with the oversized quote marks and "boxing in" the quoted text), unfortunately this only shows on my side. When reviewing quoted text sent by Outspring in another client, there is no obvious way to see that the text has been quoted, aside from the one line that says "So and so said...". IMO, this is a HUGE no-no. I think it's a disservice to my recipients to be less than clear what the quoted text is, and what "level" it is. Outspring should consider using the standard >> quote indicators, and maybe convert them to how they display it now just for users of their own client.
I'm also VERY annoyed at the self-serving spam that Outspring adds to the bottom of every outgoing mail. That must... ABSOLUTELY MUST GO!
The program seems to have a few bugs that need to be worked out before it's ready for prime-time. It crashed on me twice unexpectedly. While replying to an email (to myself), the status box never went away... stating that it was "copying" the email (presumably to my Sent Items). In the meanwhile, the reply showed up in my Inbox so I cancelled the outgoing status box since it clearly did go through, and as it turns out, there was a copy in my Sent items also.
Overall, while I must again say that I absolutely LOVE the UI of this app (possibly one of the best!), it still seems a bit buggy to be ready for regular use. Those, as well as the other issues with quoted text and lack of "plain text" support really need to be addressed before I for one can seriously consider it as a replacement for Mailsmith. I didn't take the opportunity to try out the "Brain", but offhand it looks like it would prove to be very useful.
Interesting, but... - Version: 1.0.2, 4/6/2008 02:08AM PST
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tersonodesign
It's a good attempt - the auto-filtering idea is well implemented and the GUI is pleasant to use. Before it can tempt me away from other things, however, it needs to offer manually-configurable rules alongside the auto-filtering, along with a plain text option in both viewer and compose window.
I'll be watching future builds with interest...
I'll be watching future builds with interest...
Crashes - Version: 1.0, 4/2/2008 12:25AM PST
Full Score
As a long time user of QuickMail until around 2003, I hoped for better than this.
OM crashes frequently under OSX10.5.2.
Terrible appearance - the icons are cartoonish.
Setup is almost too simple and doesn't seem to allow for enough flexibility.
Disappointing.
OM crashes frequently under OSX10.5.2.
Terrible appearance - the icons are cartoonish.
Setup is almost too simple and doesn't seem to allow for enough flexibility.
Disappointing.
Not bad - Version: 1.0, 4/1/2008 10:15PM PST
W-Creative
Not a bad looking client.
A few suggestions... refine the icons A LOT! They look very poor and unprofessional as well as being a bit too large in general.
Overall I like the basic operation. However, for $10 less you can get Powermail which is not only cheaper, but faster, better designed and proven.
Still, if I was in the market for a good client and wasn't aware of Powermail, I'd give Outspring a shot.
A few suggestions... refine the icons A LOT! They look very poor and unprofessional as well as being a bit too large in general.
Overall I like the basic operation. However, for $10 less you can get Powermail which is not only cheaper, but faster, better designed and proven.
Still, if I was in the market for a good client and wasn't aware of Powermail, I'd give Outspring a shot.
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Luckily I backed up before using this product because every time I tried to move a folder either way the folder moved but every message inside disappeared forever. There doesn't seem to be an accurate progress bar. It says it's done, but the messages are gone never to re appear. On a beefy brand new laptop, the outspring eats most of the CPU. As an added bonus if you choose this product and hate it there are 0 export options to move to another client.