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Pricing Miscue - Version: 1.4.3, 2/6/2009 04:27AM PST
neilkosterman_dotmac
VersionTracker indicates cost at $39.99, but when downloaded and go to get license price from developer is now $49.99 - what up wid dat?
Has Focus and Vision 



- Version: 1.4.1, 12/17/2008 06:35PM PST
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A Wedlake
I'm a part of that pool of ex-Quicken users who have been orphaned, looking for a real alternative to Quicken for many years. I broke the Quicken habit with Moneydance (which IS also a great product). But whereas Moneydance has sort of gone stale with feature improvements, the MoneyWell team has been hard at work.
I've reviewed MoneyWell before (1.3 I believe). It's strength has been in it's vision, scope, and a very clean execution to that vision (just watch their online videos and you'll pick this up). However, in the past, their main liability that has kept me from converting to MoneyWell has been software speed and responsiveness. 1.4.1 IS a significant improvement in this area, and is responsible for me finally migrating from Moneydance to MoneyWell. I've really been a fan of the all-in-one screen format (becoming more popular now that we're getting larger monitors). This reduces pop-up windows for reconciling, or adding transactions, or even viewing spending graphs.
MoneyWell still has a few areas that are less intuitive. Whereas Moneydance doesn't actually add a transaction to the register until you've hit enter (and gives you an audible sound to confirm so), MoneyWell assumes that one you click on the new transaction icon, a new transaction is already created in the register. I'm not so sure this is the smartest way to do so, but I suspect everyone will have a different opinion on this. For me it doesn't confirm data accuracy during entry. If you get pulled from your transaction before it's complete, or you click on another transaction in your register before your done, it's already in your register. I personally would like to see the new transaction button generate a new entry. It should only appear in your register at the time you've completed and confirmed entry (maybe an audible confirmation?)
Other than that, the interface is responsive, easy to read, follow, track buckets, and utilizes the screen space very well. Importing data that I had exported from Moneydance was easy, and with no errors. All accounts and buckets pulled in perfect. The whole import took about 1 minute, and I have over ten years of data.
Excellent job team!
Freeware to consider ... - Version: 1.4.1, 12/8/2008 11:22AM PST
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roro01
Buddi.
Perfect. 



- Version: 1.3.10, 10/10/2008 11:24AM PST
C+C
This is exactly the software I was looking for. It has all the accounting features I need for home and freelance work, plus has the best budgeting features of any software I've tried -- and I downloaded EVERY mac finance program I could find (about 3 dozen) after I got married and tried all of them.
I used Quicken as a teenager and then iBank (not the newest version, hate it) when I got an Apple. I "tricked" the old iBank into budgeting for me, but it was a hassle, and I knew it would be more of a hassle with two incomes, two freelance businesses, and two people to budget for.
Most of the budgeting programs I found just used a more sophisticated form of "tricking" -- you create a budget, and then you click accounts and run a report to see what you've budgeted in those categories versus what you've spent. OK, but not the easiest way to see if we have money left to eat out, not very flexible, and I'd still have to trick the program to put money aside each month for a bill due every six, or to only save money for Christmas presents a few months of the year, or to do something special with extra income.
I love that MoneyWell makes it easy for my husband to see exactly where the budget is (really helps with the date planning!) without my having to interpret or run reports, and that we can still be anile about tracking and reconciling everything.
The budgeting works on the envelope (in this case, bucket) system, but it's the most flexible I've seen. You can transfer money from one bucket to another or revise your spending plan at any point in time. I never would have gotten so much out of our budget without this program: being able to see all the totals instantly, compare to past spending, and tweak things without fear of messing anything up, I kept adjusting categories as I went, and I'm now amazed at how far our money's going. It's also great for either of us to be able to glance and see if we have money in a particular bucket to spend, or if there's another bucket we could transfer the money from.
Even better, it's so well integrated with the accounting side of the software that you barely have to do anything. Categories become buckets, so aside from creating a spending plan and then dispersing your income (or having the program do it for you -- you can prioritize buckets), there's nothing extra to do. The category for the transaction is a bucket, and that's that. But the buckets are separate in that you can mess around with them as much as you want and you won't throw off your account totals. All the charts I've ever found useful are already right there.
The spending plan does all the work for you -- totaling your income and expenses, giving you the average of what you've spent in a category in the past, and dividing a per-month total for irregular expenses. But it also gives you control -- you can tell it whether an expense hits a particular time of month, or you can adjust amounts for specific months for each category.
The accounting program works as it should. You don't have to click to add transactions, you can apple+n and then tab through, and the form has autocomplete. The lack of a pop-up calendar on the date box bugged me at first, but it's nice that you can type in the date however you want and the program interprets it. You can pre-enter or schedule transactions, and they show as pending (and in a different color) until you OK them. The graphics and colors are helpful without being obnoxious or annoying. For instance, go into reconcile function, and entries are then color-coded: dimmed if they're out of the date range, and, within the date range, blue if they're reconciled and red if they're not. The one-click feature is perfect for months everything matches up.
I thought it had some quirks when I was trying it out, but most turned out to be features I didn't quite understand yet. Once I figured everything out, those quirks became non-existent or helpful. The *only* thing that I would like is subcategories/nested buckets, just because I'm anile. A quick workaround, though, is to use categories you're used to (car:gas, car:tolls, car:maintenance, etc.) and then select all related categories (they'll show up next to each other alphabetically) when you want the full picture.
(Examples of "quirks": I thought I had to click on an account and a bucket to add a transaction -- what a pain. Now I keep the "all transactions" bucket selected unless I'm looking at something specific, and then, like every other program, select the account I want to enter transactions in, and bingo, autofill bucket entry. Other problems I had when getting the program to balance: I had expenses and income for the wedding that didn't match the budget and was trying to use my "trick" methods to get everything to line up. The fix was figuring out how to use the initial rollover date option to not have or not have past expenses affect the budget and then to not allocate part of the initial balance since it was already partly spent.) The only actual quirk I've found is within the spending plan: go to a category without a plan, type in an amount, and then drop down the frequency, and the amount disappears; you have to enter the frequency first.
Try it -- the trial is full-featured -- and you'll see it's the best system possible for budgeting. Oh yeah, the undo/redo on the program is incredible. No accidental boo-boos, and you can feel free to play around.
To address others' comments:
I do have a new Mac, but I was still impressed with how fast the software runs -- it quits and starts before the icon has time to bounce, honestly in about the same time as it takes to hide and reappear. Features within the program work instantly.
For a running total, click on any date in the account register, and the actual and reconciled totals for that date appear on the bottom gray bar of the program. I thought I'd miss not having the running total in the register, but I haven't. It cuts the clutter, and I hardly ever need it anymore with all of MoneyWell's features for budgeting and reconciling.
I used Quicken as a teenager and then iBank (not the newest version, hate it) when I got an Apple. I "tricked" the old iBank into budgeting for me, but it was a hassle, and I knew it would be more of a hassle with two incomes, two freelance businesses, and two people to budget for.
Most of the budgeting programs I found just used a more sophisticated form of "tricking" -- you create a budget, and then you click accounts and run a report to see what you've budgeted in those categories versus what you've spent. OK, but not the easiest way to see if we have money left to eat out, not very flexible, and I'd still have to trick the program to put money aside each month for a bill due every six, or to only save money for Christmas presents a few months of the year, or to do something special with extra income.
I love that MoneyWell makes it easy for my husband to see exactly where the budget is (really helps with the date planning!) without my having to interpret or run reports, and that we can still be anile about tracking and reconciling everything.
The budgeting works on the envelope (in this case, bucket) system, but it's the most flexible I've seen. You can transfer money from one bucket to another or revise your spending plan at any point in time. I never would have gotten so much out of our budget without this program: being able to see all the totals instantly, compare to past spending, and tweak things without fear of messing anything up, I kept adjusting categories as I went, and I'm now amazed at how far our money's going. It's also great for either of us to be able to glance and see if we have money in a particular bucket to spend, or if there's another bucket we could transfer the money from.
Even better, it's so well integrated with the accounting side of the software that you barely have to do anything. Categories become buckets, so aside from creating a spending plan and then dispersing your income (or having the program do it for you -- you can prioritize buckets), there's nothing extra to do. The category for the transaction is a bucket, and that's that. But the buckets are separate in that you can mess around with them as much as you want and you won't throw off your account totals. All the charts I've ever found useful are already right there.
The spending plan does all the work for you -- totaling your income and expenses, giving you the average of what you've spent in a category in the past, and dividing a per-month total for irregular expenses. But it also gives you control -- you can tell it whether an expense hits a particular time of month, or you can adjust amounts for specific months for each category.
The accounting program works as it should. You don't have to click to add transactions, you can apple+n and then tab through, and the form has autocomplete. The lack of a pop-up calendar on the date box bugged me at first, but it's nice that you can type in the date however you want and the program interprets it. You can pre-enter or schedule transactions, and they show as pending (and in a different color) until you OK them. The graphics and colors are helpful without being obnoxious or annoying. For instance, go into reconcile function, and entries are then color-coded: dimmed if they're out of the date range, and, within the date range, blue if they're reconciled and red if they're not. The one-click feature is perfect for months everything matches up.
I thought it had some quirks when I was trying it out, but most turned out to be features I didn't quite understand yet. Once I figured everything out, those quirks became non-existent or helpful. The *only* thing that I would like is subcategories/nested buckets, just because I'm anile. A quick workaround, though, is to use categories you're used to (car:gas, car:tolls, car:maintenance, etc.) and then select all related categories (they'll show up next to each other alphabetically) when you want the full picture.
(Examples of "quirks": I thought I had to click on an account and a bucket to add a transaction -- what a pain. Now I keep the "all transactions" bucket selected unless I'm looking at something specific, and then, like every other program, select the account I want to enter transactions in, and bingo, autofill bucket entry. Other problems I had when getting the program to balance: I had expenses and income for the wedding that didn't match the budget and was trying to use my "trick" methods to get everything to line up. The fix was figuring out how to use the initial rollover date option to not have or not have past expenses affect the budget and then to not allocate part of the initial balance since it was already partly spent.) The only actual quirk I've found is within the spending plan: go to a category without a plan, type in an amount, and then drop down the frequency, and the amount disappears; you have to enter the frequency first.
Try it -- the trial is full-featured -- and you'll see it's the best system possible for budgeting. Oh yeah, the undo/redo on the program is incredible. No accidental boo-boos, and you can feel free to play around.
To address others' comments:
I do have a new Mac, but I was still impressed with how fast the software runs -- it quits and starts before the icon has time to bounce, honestly in about the same time as it takes to hide and reappear. Features within the program work instantly.
For a running total, click on any date in the account register, and the actual and reconciled totals for that date appear on the bottom gray bar of the program. I thought I'd miss not having the running total in the register, but I haven't. It cuts the clutter, and I hardly ever need it anymore with all of MoneyWell's features for budgeting and reconciling.
Wonderful Dev support - Version: 1.3.9, 8/16/2008 02:34PM PST
arteest103--2008
They give meaning to the word "Support."
So far so good... 



- Version: 1.3.3, 6/3/2008 09:39PM PST
Bill_Doublewide
Just converted from Quicken. A definite step up. UI is the best I've seen. I don't dread working on my finances anymore. If you need more than a checkbook, a budgeting aid, this is a very good choice.
As far as speed, no problem for me on a rev A macbook. It seems fine to me. I imported the past two year's data, about 1.5Mb, and speed isn't an issue.
As far as speed, no problem for me on a rev A macbook. It seems fine to me. I imported the past two year's data, about 1.5Mb, and speed isn't an issue.
performance is still unacceptable on G4 - Version: 1.3.3, 5/21/2008 05:29AM PST
bernie90210
I want to echo Andrew Wedlake's comments. The performance of version 1.3.3 is so poor as to make the program unusable a PowerBook G4/1.67 Ghz. The developer claims to have improved performance on Intel processors, but I'm not sure why it still isn't acceptable on a computer that is less than three years old. This is software that manages personal finances, not one that performs real-time video processing or something really processor-intensive; Quicken is a speed demon by comparison. In addition, although the developer has been quick to respond to email, I don't find him to have been very responsive about this issue, as it has dragged on for months.
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- performance is still unacceptable on G4
Shows Promise 



- Version: 1.2.9, 2/22/2008 04:16PM PST
A Wedlake
I really like many aspects of this program, which I purchased about a month ago. I think it's laid out really well, and there is a lot of thinking that has gone into how functions work. I currently use Moneydance, and although the interface is kind of clunky, it's signifantly faster to use.
MoneyWell's lack of speed will get on your nerves VERY quickly. It hesitates on almost any function, such as changing accounts or smart buckets. Scrolling through a long list in one account is the only thing that runs "fairly" smoothly. One would think that a program coded to run natively in Leopard would run faster than a program written in Java (Moneydance), but that's not the case at all.
Another small addition that would be usefull is the abilty to see a running total in the register. Currently the only place to see the total is at the account icon. Great if you want to know where you ended at, but if you want to know where you were at in Mid December when an "issue" occured with your bank, no such luck (yet).
I really hope these small issues will be addressed soon. I have it installed, and after a few updates I try an export from Moneydance into MoneyWell to take it out for a spin again.
I can't recommend this program yet, but it's showing a tremendous amount of promise.
MoneyWell's lack of speed will get on your nerves VERY quickly. It hesitates on almost any function, such as changing accounts or smart buckets. Scrolling through a long list in one account is the only thing that runs "fairly" smoothly. One would think that a program coded to run natively in Leopard would run faster than a program written in Java (Moneydance), but that's not the case at all.
Another small addition that would be usefull is the abilty to see a running total in the register. Currently the only place to see the total is at the account icon. Great if you want to know where you ended at, but if you want to know where you were at in Mid December when an "issue" occured with your bank, no such luck (yet).
I really hope these small issues will be addressed soon. I have it installed, and after a few updates I try an export from Moneydance into MoneyWell to take it out for a spin again.
I can't recommend this program yet, but it's showing a tremendous amount of promise.
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Shows Promise 



- Version: 1.2.9, 2/22/2008 04:15PM PST
A Wedlake
I really like many aspects of this program, which I purchased about a month ago. I think it's laid out really well, and there is a lot of thinking that has gone into how functions work. I currently use Moneydance, and although the interface is kind of clunky, it's signifantly faster to use.
MoneyWell's lack of speed will get on your nerves VERY quickly. It hesitates on almost any function, such as changing accounts or smart buckets. Scrolling through a long list in one account is the only thing that runs "fairly" smoothly. One would think that a program coded to run natively in Leopard would run faster than a program written in Java (Moneydance), but that's not the case here.
Another small addition that would be usefull is the abilty to see a running total in the register. Currently the only place to see the total is at the account icon. Great if you want to know where you ended at, but if you want to know where you were at in Mid December when an "issue" occured with your bank, no such luck (yet).
I really hope these small issues will be addressed soon. I have it installed, and after a few posted updates I try an export from Moneydance into MoneyWell to take it out for a spin again.
I can't recommend this program yet, but it's showing a tremendous amount of promise.
MoneyWell's lack of speed will get on your nerves VERY quickly. It hesitates on almost any function, such as changing accounts or smart buckets. Scrolling through a long list in one account is the only thing that runs "fairly" smoothly. One would think that a program coded to run natively in Leopard would run faster than a program written in Java (Moneydance), but that's not the case here.
Another small addition that would be usefull is the abilty to see a running total in the register. Currently the only place to see the total is at the account icon. Great if you want to know where you ended at, but if you want to know where you were at in Mid December when an "issue" occured with your bank, no such luck (yet).
I really hope these small issues will be addressed soon. I have it installed, and after a few posted updates I try an export from Moneydance into MoneyWell to take it out for a spin again.
I can't recommend this program yet, but it's showing a tremendous amount of promise.
Extremely cool application 



- Version: 1.2.5, 1/21/2008 12:00AM PST
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dareios
I'm testing this soft since beginning of Dec 2007 parallel with Cha-Ching, Money2 and iBank. I have to admit that this is one of the best approach to managing personal finance. Normally you are interested how your cash flow looks like at the end of the day and how to harmonize monthly/yearly spending plan to avoid unexpected and nasty surprises And what? Both of this main KPIs you have got on the spot. Beside of that, we receive very intuitive navigation through the 1-pages layout, perfect reconciliation, clear graphics (exactly what I want income vs. expenses). It's allow very easy to monitor you daily profit&loss balance on time.
What could be develop in the future? Well, it would be highly appreciated if No Thirst would be release Pro version with e.g. stock exchange management.
I'd swear blind it was one of the best software I tested in last time. Highly recommended to buy.
Greetings form Poland.
What could be develop in the future? Well, it would be highly appreciated if No Thirst would be release Pro version with e.g. stock exchange management.
I'd swear blind it was one of the best software I tested in last time. Highly recommended to buy.
Greetings form Poland.