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Sudoku Susser

Sudoku Susser - 2.5.8

sudoku puzzle assistant & solver

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Current Version: 2.5.8
Release Date: 2008-03-29
License: Freeware
Downloads (this version): 4,871
Downloads (all versions): 69,693
Price: Free

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Sudoku Susser CommentaryLacks one crucial feature, has needlessly complicated UI - Version: 2.5.8, 5/11/2008 12:14PM PST

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Curtis Jackson
Let me start with a disclaimer: What I want out of sudoku assistant is basically electronic paper with a bookmarking capability (so when one of my guesses turns out to be wrong I can rewind back to the point where I guessed wrong and take a more profitable path). That means I can enter numbers in squares, including entering multiple numbers in a square to indicate possible numbers for that square, and I can edit the contents of squares as the puzzle progresses. That is it.

Every other interactive sudoku framework I have ever seen allows one to start with all the non-initial squares blank, then enter multiple numbers in unsolved squares to indicate possible allocations. Sometimes this is done as "pencil marks" in a tiny font in a line along the top of the square. Other times this is accomplished by simply allowing the user to enter more than one digit in a square, and showing all of the entered digits in a size-appropriate font.

In the "pencil marks" model, one clicks near the top of the desired square and types in numbers (the UK TimesOnline version is one that works this way). In the other model, which is employed by the Chicago Sun Times website, one simply clicks on a square and types as many digits as one wants. In both models, one can click on a set of numbers and edit them simply using normal text editing keys like arrow keys, delete, etc.

Sudoku Susser, on the other hand, only seems to be willing to show user-entered possibilities in a mode in which it also shows the user *all* of the possibilities on the entire board as calculated by Sudoku Susser, which is just plain cheating for the user.

In addition, Sudoku Susser's arcane method of data entry (Shift-#) is, well, arcane and completely unnecessarily so.

I can see the author has put a lot of work into this, and even had the unusual grace to write a manual for the program -- bravo! But I must unfortunately conclude that this program illustrates two of the founding principles of good software usability design:

1) Do not reinvent the wheel just to be different. If the existing methods employed by other programs are simple, elegant, and user-friendly, use the same methods yourself and spend your time adding value in other ways. Any attempt at improvement is going to be a mistake.

2) Never ever let an engineer or programmer design a UI all on their own. ;-)

If I could take the UI from either of the newspaper sites that I mentioned above, and add a simple bookmarking capability like the one in Sudoku Susser, I would be a happy man.
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Sudoku Susser CommentaryHmmm - Version: 2.5.8, 3/30/2008 07:00AM PST

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Captain Lumpy Dog
Not that I've ever used the product, or even tried Sudoku, -- I'm a crosswords puzzle guy -- but this sounds a little silly to me. Isn't the point of Sudoku to try and figure it out on your own? Maybe it's just me. :D
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Sudoku Susser ReviewBug city - Version: 2.5.7, 11/15/2007 06:40AM PST

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rblevitt
Up to version 2.5.7, it was an excellent program. With this version, I have encountered a couple of bugs which have forced me to start looking at a possible replacement. In previous versions, I was able to create my puzzles using MS Excel X and then copy and paste them into the Susser grid with no problems whatsoever. In this version, it refuses to let me paste the puzzles into the grid and gives me the numbers in the comments area without pasting them. I have also had the program give me an error message after manually entering the data into the grid and saving it as a new puzzle, telling me to use a command which doesn't exist.
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Sudoku Susser ReviewIncredibly well done - Version: 2.5.3, 10/3/2007 07:28PM PST

Bud Simrin
Great tool for learning basic and advanced and very advanced techniques. Creates new puzzles, lets you enter them manually (useful if you get stuck on one from, say, a newspaper), provides variable levels of hints, saves partially completed puzzles for later. Wonderful graphic interface, simple to use with great color codes. Provides as much or as little information about future moves as you like.

I can't imagine anything more than this. And free, too!!!
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Sudoku Susser ReviewThe Puppy's Testicles! - Version: 2.5.5, 9/20/2007 08:57AM PST

rdcain
Outstandingly good. I donated yonks ago, and it was a few dollars (pounds in my case) well spent.

Thoroughly recommended.
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Sudoku Susser Commentarydon't like the graphical new interface... - Version: 2.5, 1/31/2006 10:03AM PST

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sarrazin.helene
This is a very good program, that I used a lot in its previous version (2.1.3).

I tried the new one, but I cannot use it properly...
I don't like playing with the mouse, and I used to play with keyboard shortcuts... but some of them have changed, and I can't find the proper key for the moves I want to do.

Moreover, I don't like the new visual aspect... I find it to "charged" with a lot of buttons... and I prefer a more "simple" aspect

I would prefer to be able to switch preferences from keyboard-menu to graphic, if I want to...

For now, I disinstalled the new 2.5 version, and re-installed the "old" 2.1.3 ;-)

Helene
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Sudoku Susser ReviewGreat App - Version: 2.1.3, 1/24/2006 01:17AM PST

pacl_dotmac
Very useful App. for all players of sudoku
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Sudoku Susser Troubleshooting ReportCrashes on Launch - Version: 2.1.3, 1/8/2006 03:47PM PST

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mex4eric
Have loved SS for long time, so downloaded update and it launches, gives a waiting window and crashes.
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Sudoku Susser ReviewGreat Suduko aid - Version: 2.0.9, 1/2/2006 12:33PM PST

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wilkins
Excellent program for giving you as much or as little help as you want
solving suduko puzzles. Excellent for learning.
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Sudoku Susser Troubleshooting ReportDMG not mounting - Version: 2.1.1, 12/28/2005 02:44PM PST

gzieman
Try the following and use the HTTP link.
http://www.madoverlord.com/projects/sudoku.t
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