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TAO - 1.8d

Information outliner/organizer.

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Current Version: 1.8d
Release Date: 2009-04-27
License: Commercial
Downloads (this version): 859
Downloads (all versions): 50,191
Price: $10.00

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TAO Commentaryd-lit.com? - Version: 1.8d, 4/29/2009 06:08AM PST

ZX-81
Anyone knows what d.light is? The original Tao page now appears on a site called" d-lit.com" and the only app mentioned is Tao.
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TAO CommentaryAbandonware? - Version: 1.8b, 2/12/2009 08:14PM PST

dancasali
I bought Tao several years ago as it was the closest thing available to the now unavailable Thinktank More.

It met my needs, though up until a year or so ago it was ever changing. No more. It is inert, maybe abandoned. Nothing has changed on the developer web site since June of 07. No development or bug fixes are being released. I love it, but cracks are appearing, and it seems to be abandoned. Anyone found a decent replacement? I need cloning.

(Please. Please. Someone bring More back.)
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TAO ReviewTAO is dead? - Version: 1.8b, 8/2/2008 10:10AM PST

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cogden
As an original ThinkTank/More user, one of my biggest OS X hurdles was converting my (and those of my colleagues') outlines to a OS X application. After testing all the available software, we found Tao to offer the most robust feature set. I then helped Takashi Hamada with the alpha/beta testing and the product's evolution (then called "FO"). The product was very promising Unfortunately, what was once solid support has waned. Development (which people once complained resulted in too many updates) has stalled. Indeed his website that addresses "Current State of Development" hasn't been updated since 3rd June, 2007. The "shipping" version is a beta. Worst starting June 2007, the product has led to total file corruption in more than six instances. Takashi wrote that they were working on the issue, yet a year has passed and no new version has been released, and the product continues to corrupt critical data beyond recovery. Unfortunately, additional emails to Takahasi have gone unanswered. Sady, we can no longer recommend this product. While OmniOutliner seems to be the next best thing, it doesn't match Tao in several key areas, namely "Cloning" (which Omni has promised for over two years now) and ease of keyboard custom configurations. They are still stuck in 3.x releases, with no 4.0 in sight. The funny thing is that More still rocks as a mean, lean, featured outliner. To bad Dave Winer doesn't brush off the source code and release it for Leopard (seeing as how the product was abandoned by Symantec).
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TAO ReviewTAO is a strange beast. - Version: 1.8, 4/9/2007 10:39PM PST

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Nick Sloan
In theory it has power and flexibility like no other Mac outliner; in practice it requires intense study and patience to get the best out of it. Like other revered pieces of Mac shareware (Graphic Converter and Vuescan spring to mind) it is the complex and ingenious product of a single developer, which gives it the sort of single-minded focus that commercial software often lacks, but it also means that what may be obvious to the impressive mind of Mr Takashi can be a little baffling to the rest of us. You will be able to do things with TAO (sophisticated columns, minute control over formatting, comprehensive linking, extraordinarily flexible viewing options) that are not possible with most if any other Mac outliners, but do not expect to be able to achieve this without a considerable investment in time spent learning the intricacies of the app. TAO is not for the casual user, but can be very rewarding for those prepared to make the most of it.

I have found it to be stable --in that it has never crashed on me, or caused a 3rd party crash so far as I know-- but not bug-free: some of the preferences do not seem to work as intended, and even after a minute study of the manual, some corners of the interface continue to perplex. This is not surprising for so convoluted an app, but as some previous reviewers have noted, the fact that TAO still has glitches to be ironed out after over 3 years of development and innumerable versions, makes me worry about the prospect of finite resources being dissipated on a Windows version.

For $30, TAO is an absolute bargain. Please keep up the good work Mr Takashi.
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TAO ReviewOK compared to alternatives - Version: 1.1b25e, 11/12/2006 05:21PM PST

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G983475
This is a good app based on its available features. But it is very unpolished, it is not easy to learn, and it's slow. Despite all that, its competitors are lagging behind in features, TAO has pretty much everything on the "power outliner" wishlist (it doesn't have AppleScript yet, but I don't use it).

But I must admit, I'll be using this and hoping to dump it in favor of OmniOutliner if they get their act together and add some of these features. And with TAO's sometimes slow and occasionally buggy behavior (although usually minor), I could blame the fact that it's in beta, but this thing is always in beta so that's no excuse. The last non-beta release is a completely different app, and I would not use it.
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TAO CommentaryGood app, annoying management - Version: 1.1b25c, 10/14/2006 08:20AM PST

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Attinello
Yes, just to chime in - I've bought this, I use it occasionally, I think it's good design.

But the betas are getting a bit insane... twenty-five betas reaching over months now, and no solid version since - well I don't have clear records when that was but it's been a very long time.

Incidentally, when I run a program that takes unneeded languages and architecture off my Powerbook, this is one of the only programs that stops running and needs to be re-downloaded. Any chance of separating the language and architecture files so this doesn't happen?...
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TAO CommentaryBeta Phase - Version: 1.1b25a, 9/29/2006 07:57AM PST

mail117
I have decided to register this as soon as it is no longer in Beta. Anyone got any idea when that will be?
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TAO Commentarygreat outliner but please stop this never-ending beta development! - Version: 1.1b25a, 9/28/2006 09:42AM PST

ChepnisAroma
The more I use this outliner, the more I like it. Not a very nice app, but don't be put off by this. Really, I recommend it.

Now, there's the problem of this never-ending beta development. The developer, I think, doesn't want TAO 1.1 to go final until the manual is not finished. But judging from some of the emails that I got from the developer, TAO 1.1 is near. At last :)
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TAO CommentaryConsistent Updates? - Version: 1.1b25, 9/26/2006 06:15AM PST

johnnymar
I second the comment from below about constant updates. TAO is hands-down the most "updated" software I have, judging by the volume of emails coming from VersionTracker that yet another version is available.

Now, I certainly applaud a developer's efforts in looking for and fixing bugs. But this one is out of hand. But, please, TAO, if you want more customers, enough with the weekly updates and fixes. We would all appreciate a bundled fix a few times a year.
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TAO ReviewThe most feature-rich outliner - Version: 1.1b24o, 9/10/2006 07:00AM PST

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spammy1
I own licenses for Mori, OmniOutliner Pro and Circus Ponies NoteBook, but decided to give TAO a try as well. It has the most powerful feature set by far, there's no point in listing it here. The price for such power is an interface that's awkward at best, which is what kept me away until now. You do have a lot of control over styles though once you get set up.

The documentation could be improved (a tutorial or two would be nice), but if you're interested, don't give up too quickly. Devote a few hours to learning to learning the basic functions, you can go back later and try to learn some of the advanced features.

Besides a refined interface, my other wish is that the web site had a forum, I suggested it to the developer; it is particularly necessary for an app of this complexity (while you're at it, there's no excuse to have such a crappy looking website if you're selling a product). I'm sure there are expert TAO users out there who would be willing to help out dummies like myself, and other users who would benefit from discussion. It seems to me the value of a forum to users and therefore to the developer would far outweigh any setup costs. And please aim for a 1.1 final release, if for no other reason than to encourage new users to try the app.
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