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Eudora - 8.0.0b7

Email client based on Thunderbird.

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Current Version: 8.0.0b7
Release Date: 2009-09-04
License: Beta
Downloads (this version): 1,326
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Eudora Usage TipRecipients vs. Senders - Version: 8.0.0b7, 10/7/2009 06:38PM PST

WhiteDog
There is a poorly iconed pull-down menu above the scroll arrow at the upper right of the message list pane. In this menu are two occurrences of the item "Who." The top one enables Recipients; the bottom one enables Senders (I have only the bottom one checked). This feature is by no means clear - I worked it out through trial and error. The first trick is to find the blasted pull-down menu. The Recipients/Senders feature is a Penelope add-on item. It's not present in the Thuderbird or even Eudora without Penelope.

By the way, I've found that Penelope has serious problems in OS X 10.6.1. With a message selected in the message pane, any keyboard input moves one or another message to the trash. If you have the trash in the message window, keyboard input will delete a selected message entirely. As a result, I have had to disable Penelope in Eudora, which rather defeats the purpose of using the Eudora version of Thunderbird. I have not reported this issue because filing bug reports for Eudora remains, as it has been for a very long time, incredibly tedious. As always with Eudora, you just have to hope they will find and fix the bug eventually - I call that the Eudora tax. Even though the program is now free, that tax remains. The developers continue to hide behind a screen of open source gobbledegook. Given that they make user feedback so difficult, I wonder why they even bother with the Eudora/Penelope project. Given the long intervals between updates, they clearly don't bother very much.
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Eudora CommentaryInbox "From" column shows recepients - Version: 8.0.0b7, 9/9/2009 08:36PM PST

arcturus1
The inbox in this version (v.b7) appears to show the names of the recipients instead of the senders. Hope they fix this soon.
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Eudora CommentaryEditing mailboxes - Version: 8.0.0b7, 9/8/2009 10:22AM PST

KroemerUCSB
In the original Eudora, it was possible to fully edit the contents of all mailboxes. Is this capability retained in the new version?
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Eudora CommentaryStick with previous version - Version: 8.0.0b7, 9/5/2009 01:53AM PST

WhiteDog
Eudora 8.0.0b7 gave me fits in Snow Leopard. Ironically, the previous version, 8.0.0b6 works just fine. Fortunately, it's not hard to revert - just be sure to save your old copy if you decide to try this one.
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Eudora Troubleshooting Report8.0.0b6 crashes on launch - Version: 8.0.0b6, 6/24/2009 11:45AM PST

cantrell
And takes Crash Reporter with it.
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Eudora CommentaryBummer - Version: 8.0.0b6, 5/22/2009 01:53PM PST

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WhiteDog
I've been using Eudora 8 for awhile now. Unfortunately, this latest update won't fly. Every time I launch it, it crashes with the message "The application didn't have an application data file" and "Unfortunately the crash reporter is unable to submit a report for this crash." I'm running OS X 10.5.7 on a Mac Pro. To say the least this problem reflects poorly on the ammeters working on this particular open source project. With no easy way to submit bug reports I suspect the project is doomed.
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Eudora CommentaryTime to depart - Version: 8.0.0b6, 5/22/2009 06:50AM PST

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joinerm
I also used Eudora from the year dot on my first mac, up until the end of last year. I too used to think that it was mission critical and I couldn't do without it. Over the Christmas break, I took the plunge and converted at least 15 years of accumulated Eudora over to Apple Mail, using the outstanding EudoraMailboxCleaner utility, which preserves all the flags. This also has a key advantage that it preserves all your original Eudora files, so you can always go back if you really want. I also purchased MailActOn which enhances the Rules available in Mail, and now I can do absolutely everything I used to do in Eudora, and believe me I was a power user, in Mail and now with the benefit of all the ease of use and additional integration with Mac OS X. It was one of the best decisions I ever made and now I do not miss Eudora at all.
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Eudora CommentaryDeveloper makes it hard on itself - Version: 8.0.0b6, 5/22/2009 12:45AM PST

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grh-akl
For the work I do, Eudora is mission-critical. i cannot imagine a world without it. I'm using OSx 10.5.7 to drive an Intel Mac. If, for example, 10.6 breaks Eudora 6.24, this is a big enough disaster for me to resist upgrading to 10.6. I haver spent a little while browsing Apple Mail. It is sufficiently different that i simply do not want to make the switch.

So, with those thoughts in mind, i watch the evolution of "new" Eudora with extreme interest.

So much interest, that i would like to participate as a beta tester or fellow-developer, to ensure that "new" Eudora meets my needs, as perfectly as Classic Eudora. I don't mind paying for a professional, bug-free, fully-featured application and I sincerely hope that New Eudora achieves that status. (Frankly, I'm pissed off that Quallcomm halted development, leaving newcomers to re-invent the wheel. They should at least offer to sell the code.)

So i visited the developer's site wanting to see how i could help. Guess what, there is no Contact link that I could find. How intelligent is that? Suddenly, I feel less-certain about their ability to deliver the sort of quality software I want.

If you're reading, Developer, please rely to this with an email address.
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Eudora CommentaryGetting better - Version: 8.0.0b5, 1/17/2009 08:37AM PST

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X-User2
I installed version 8.0.0b4 in my MacBookPro running Tiger: Import of my different mailboxes and address books and my settings worked without problems. Items I miss from the Classic Eudora are time queued sending of messages and signatures (probably I have to use templates to get a similar result). HTML rendering and character encoding problems - the biggest disadventages of the classic version - are forgotten now. And I really like the option to open messages in tabs and the much more powerfull address auto completion.

I only had a problem with opening my attachments. Despite toggling between settings a word doc for example had to be saved to disk first and then manually be opened from there. After installing 8.0.0b5, this problem has disappeared.

BTW, running the classic version and the new thunderbird based version of Eudora side by side is no problem.
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Eudora CommentaryStill don't understand this - Version: 8.0.0b5, 1/17/2009 07:55AM PST

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mfwills

I remain confused about the reason for this exercise.

The developers continue to claim "It's *not* our intention to compete with Thunderbird; rather, we want to complement it."

Not compete? How not? You use one email client or you use another: putting the effort into creating yet another client is competition, whether you want to admit it or not.

Complement? One dictionary definition of complement is "a thing that completes or brings to perfection." Eudora completes Thunderbird or brings it to perfection exactly how? I'm willing to listen, though. Someone please explain the "complement" as you use it here.

An add-on that provides some new functionality to Thunderbird would complement Thunderbird. A repackaged clone is competition, and, to be blunt, not very good competition.

Classic Eudora was a good program in its time. I was sad to give it up (especially the x-settings) in favor of Thunderbird, but this is nothing like Classic Eudora, and, to my mind, nothing more than a poorly executed effort to keep the Eudora name alive.

To claim this is a complement and not competition is pure unadulterated BS. Either that, or an exceptionally poor understanding of those words as they are used in English.

Give it up folks, or give us something that knocks our socks off. A clone that's nowhere near as flexible as the original is hardly worth the time of day. If you're not knocking our socks off, your efforts to keep Eudora alive in this fashion are just insulting. She should be allowed to rest in peace. This is not doing her memory justice. Not in the least.

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